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    All fair points, it's not too difficult to predict one of two outcomes over an extended time.

    In the normal world, as opposed to Hogwarts and the Emirates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    People were claiming all kinds of things about how we would decline under Wenger, plenty said we'd slip into mid-table. Last season was our worst finish under Wenger and even then we only missed out on 4th place by 2 points and we won the FA Cup.
    The doom-mongers haven't exactly been vindicated, they said we'd be in mid-table years ago and that hasn't happened.
    The club is, in theory, pretty well positioned for success right now. But Wenger is a spent force and we have a board who don't care so long as the money keeps rolling in.
    Replacing Wenger would at least be different and right now that in itself would be a good thing, but with our board I don't see that as the silver bullet.
    A little bit of sleep and Letters is right back on it.

    "Positioned for success"

    Somebody tell Ivan, he'll want that one.
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    Money has been a factor. Look at where the titles have ended up. And don't pull Leicester out of your arse, what they did was remarkable but they didn't repeat it. In general the biggest prizes end up at the clubs with the biggest resources. Chelsea and City were nowhere before the billionaires took over. But that doesn't mitigate all the failures over the last 10 years and the main issue is right now we do have the resources to compete and we are still failing to.

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    Now Leicester need to repeat it before Arsene can be held accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    People were claiming all kinds of things about how we would decline under Wenger, plenty said we'd slip into mid-table. Last season was our worst finish under Wenger and even then we only missed out on 4th place by 2 points and we won the FA Cup.
    The doom-mongers haven't exactly been vindicated, they said we'd be in mid-table years ago and that hasn't happened.
    The club is, in theory, pretty well positioned for success right now. But Wenger is a spent force and we have a board who don't care so long as the money keeps rolling in.
    Replacing Wenger would at least be different and right now that in itself would be a good thing, but with our board I don't see that as the silver bullet.
    Was it not said that Wenger was not said that Wenger had way more influence over the Board that you guys were making out?

    Was it not said that he was a poor tactician?

    Was it not said that he’d not be able to handle star players with egos because of his soft man management, hence why he goes for less known players?

    Was it not said that he’d still fuck things up even if he had money to spend?

    Was it not said that he’s he puts the interest of Board over the interest of the Arsenal fans?

    A lot has been said over the years and goes way beyond the results and us dropping down the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    A little bit of sleep and Letters is right back on it.

    "Positioned for success"

    Somebody tell Ivan, he'll want that one.
    Less WUM, more debate. If you disagree then explain why. You accuse me of coming into threads and having a dig and then you do it here. If you have something to say then say it.
    We have a squad which finished 5th last year and that was under Wenger who you constantly deride, you don't think they could do better under a different manager?
    We have the resources to compete financially with most clubs and the stadium and global fanbase to sustain that. As a club we could succeed if we had the right manager and board.
    We don't, but we could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur View Post
    Was it not said that Wenger was not said that Wenger had way more influence over the Board that you guys were making out?

    Was it not said that he was a poor tactician?

    Was it not said that he’d not be able to handle star players with egos because of his soft man management, hence why he goes for less known players?

    Was it not said that he’d still fuck things up even if he had money to spend?

    Was it not said that he’s he puts the interest of Board over the interest of the Arsenal fans?

    A lot has been said over the years and goes way beyond the results and us dropping down the table.
    Lucky guesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Less WUM, more debate. If you disagree then explain why. You accuse me of coming into threads and having a dig and then you do it here. If you have something to say then say it.
    We have a squad which finished 5th last year and that was under Wenger who you constantly deride, you don't think they could do better under a different manager?
    We have the resources to compete financially with most clubs and the stadium and global fanbase to sustain that. As a club we could succeed if we had the right manager and board.
    We don't, but we could.
    Fuck off! Now you want a serious debate and less WUM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Now Leicester need to repeat it before Arsene can be held accountable.

    Lazy...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Less WUM, more debate. If you disagree then explain why. You accuse me of coming into threads and having a dig and then you do it here. If you have something to say then say it.
    We have a squad which finished 5th last year and that was under Wenger who you constantly deride, you don't think they could do better under a different manager?
    We have the resources to compete financially with most clubs and the stadium and global fanbase to sustain that. As a club we could succeed if we had the right manager and board.
    We don't, but we could.
    You want me to explain why Arsenal is not positioned for success?
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