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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    From a top 2 title contender, to a top 4 trophy hunter, to a top 6 club with culture when all around is vulgar - what's that going to be, Moral Champions? If you can't see a decline then you are refusing to look. Maybe you are saying the decline hasn't happened fast enough to be classed as a decline? Okay then, it's a slow decline. Man Utd have won a title, lost a legend, suffered farce and regained the top 4 while we have been trudging towards our top 6 status.

    Some say our titles winning teams played the best football ever seen, comparable with the great Brazilian sides of the past. That's where we were. Now we're assured a top 6 spot? Sounds a bit like a decline to me.
    We dropped from a top 2 side to a top 4 side but that happened years ago. I'm not sure that Wenger or anyone else could have done anything about that, there isn't a distinct top 2 any more.
    That wasn't so much about our decline as other teams raising their level. When the billionaire fuelled teams barged in it broke the duopoly with us and Utd there were suddenly more teams able to compete.
    We became a top 4 side and have pretty much remained one ever since, there has been no decline, neither has there been any progress. It's been stagnation. Groundhog Day.
    Last year we finished 5th by a couple of points, top 4 is going to be tricky this year. Now Spurs and possibly Liverpool have got their acts together it does seem to have become more of a top 6 but, again, that's more about those teams getting better rather than us getting worse.

    The main decline has been in the entertainment value. Back in the day we were a joy to watch whatever the result, now it's a bore which is partly why I can't be arsed with it.
    In terms of our actual level there really hasn't been that much difference in the last 10 years. If there has been a decline it's been glacial and it's hard to predict whether there will be serious decline or we'll continue to bimble around at about this level. Suspect the latter with our resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieira View Post
    I'm terrified that there's a danger like you working in the police force

    If the fate of the country is in the hands of people like you we're screwed
    NO....NO......Bad Dog!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieira View Post
    Why try and reason with people that can't see their arse from their elbow?
    My elbow doesn't have eyes tbf so it is a bit tricky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    As someone pointed out, it would be very hard for a club with our level of resources to end up much lower than we are at the moment,
    Even with an average squad and an awful manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Even with an average squad and an awful manager?
    Well that’s precisely the point I’ve made

    Because of the size of the club, Wenger can only drag us down so far. But the guy is an anchor Letters. You know this.....any other consideration is irrelevant.

    Whether you think Zim comes to ridiculous conclusions or whether he thinks you’re a Wenger apologist. You both agree the guy has to go.

    That’s all that matters, everything else is anodyne

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    OK. So you have proposed in ground protests. I have proposed a boycott. I think my method would be more effective, yours more realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    OK. So you have proposed in ground protests. I have proposed a boycott. I think my method would be more effective, yours more realistic.
    Not really effective. The club knows there are enough plastics and tourists out there to replace most of us

    Making the job unbearable for Wenger. Every game making it known in no uncertain terms that he’s got to go. Wenger isn’t extraordinary, no one can tolerate that kind of environment for too long.

    If we don’t beat Spurs weekend after next (we won’t) he’s going to get a taste of that at the Emirates

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    Yes, it's only effective if everyone joins in (or doesn't join in, I suppose). Which won't happen, clearly.
    If we lose to Spurs, especially if we are properly thumped, then things will get quite nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Spot on, we are in decline, someone can put all the excuses on the table but we are, some of those years we only ended up higher up due to a collapse from other teams, it wasn't us leading the chasing pack, it was the chasing pack losing motivation after realising the title is gone.

    The football has been going backwards for years, the bad results (thrashings) are more regular than ever, a lot of our wins are unconvincing and could easily have ended up as draws and we get hammered by the top sides in Europes elite competition.

    The stats about the position we end up in needs context, back in the day when we came 2nd we came 2nd but we're almost always in the title hunt, last time we came 2nd we were never in it and came 2nd because Spurs collapsed after their title chances as good as disappeared.

    As someone pointed out, it would be very hard for a club with our level of resources to end up much lower than we are at the moment, 6th or so is pretty low we've definitely gone backwards.
    Spot on as usual

    But unfortunately he won't be going anywhere when there's fans like Herbert and Letters that want Wenger to stay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieira View Post
    Spot on as usual

    But unfortunately he won't be going anywhere when there's fans like Herbert and Letters that want Wenger to stay
    Get into your basket!

    Going to have to talk to the vets about getting you neutered. Spraying piss everywhere
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