He clearly wanted change hence his catalyst for change comments. And the fact it took 4 months for them to realise he's the right man to take us forward despite being convinced 'all along', suggests there were people not in favour of him extending. Put the pieces together.
That would imply we have TWO people in charge who are senile. Because you can't get to Gazidis' position without learning a bit about politics and the use of language along the way. Or judging a character. So if Ivan is genuinely sold on Wenger, makes you ask why Wenger had to run of to Stan to keep his job? Ivan must be as mental as Wenger if he meant that as a compliment. And I'm not giving Gazidis any leeway. Coincidentally enough, given the other thread, one possible route to change at Arsenal is if the senior mob are so much at each other's throats there's little alternative but to start chopping heads. Chaos.Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Or actual assault of some sort would be just as good.
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It’s not about Gazidis being sold on Wenger, again you’d have to be impaired in your critical faculties to believe in this guy.
What I’m saying is that Gazidis doesn’t give a fuck whether Wenger is competent or not. His Meglomaniacal tendencies are rather convenient for him because he has less work to do for his obscene amount of money. And when criticism comes his way “it’s not my fault I’m not being allowed to do job properly and when I kiss arse I’m just playing the long game”.
Gazidis doesn’t give a fuck, he’s just trying to give himself credibility
Wenger went to Kroenke because if you need something done, you talk to the organ grinder not the monkey. And Gazidis is a monkey who is happy to dance for the money.
Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 13-11-2017 at 03:05 PM.
Spot on
All the signs lead to Wenger only. Gazidis has been nothing but undermined and insulted over the years, it started off all those years ago with the 'Ivan gazidis what the f do you do' chants which would have made him sink into his chair with embarrassment, to Wenger ridiculing a director of football last season. Deep down he won't be happy, people that get to the top of companies usually have massive egos and his has taken a massive dent in recent years. Let's hope it fires him up enough to take action in some way shape or form. Maybe him having Wenger reporting directly into him now is part of a plan, so he can amalgamate all the information about how this dinosaur is so inefficient, before presenting it to Stan. F*ck knows.
Maybe he hasn't left yet because he wants us to judge him on a post Wenger era? An era where he can actually do his job properly, have power and control over a manager and set metrics. Because currently he can't do any of that. His hands are clearly tied and that will hurt him. A man that is the CEO of one of the biggest corporations is getting slated by fans left right and centre. He'll want to leave on his own terms.
It makes zero sense to force out our main scout along with Dick Law and then take on the responsibility to sign new players. That's putting himself in the firing line. Why would he do that?
Herbert's argument is completely invalid because gazidis has taken on more work with dick law gone.
Because it’s still less work than he’d have if any other manager other than Wenger was at the club.
Plus Dick Law and Steve Rowley are good old fashioned patsies, Wengers dithering is what was responsible for our horror show summer (which Gazidis tried to spin as good). And they will be replaced or not in time.....or not, and more likely the work just won’t be done
But if you want to believe this guy is some victim of Wenger and Kroenke be my guest. If he was genuinely an agent of change, why hasn’t Wenger demanded him gone for trying to undermine him?.
Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 13-11-2017 at 04:07 PM.
Getting rid of people below you is easy.. players, coaches, scouts etc, but you can't get rid of someone above you at the click of your fingers. Especially someone at one of the biggest corporations in the world, an individual highly regarded by Stan. Gazidis won CEO of the year a few years ago and I'm sure he won another prize last year or year before. So he's clearly highly regarded for what he does.
Why does he need to be a victim of Wenger and Kroenke. Why can't he just be in opposition to Wenger. And would you agree that would be a good thing? A genuine fight for power right at the top of the club that, hopefully, rips the gravy train right off the rails? Probably would never happen, Arsenal is too Jewish for that that sort of behaviour, but it might happen. There's a chance. But beforehand, the troops need to be firing shots at each other. And it seems to me that sentence was one such shots, from quite a few. I don't think it's a stretch to say Wenger and Ivan might not get along as well as they make out in public. The little evidence we have points that way.
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Do you have any examples to back that up?
Also, why not just appoint more patsy types and keep that cycle rotating to buy time? Why put yourself in the role where you’ll be held accountable for failing to sign a player and Wenger can directly point the finger at him for messing up?
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