Winter Transfer Despair and Bafflement.

[Özim]

People are laughing at them for overpaying but as you rightly said they are addressing their weakest areas by purchasing the very best players available to them within their budget. That Naby Keita the midfielder they signed from Leipzig is absolute quality too.

They are putting us to shame in the ambition stakes, it’s not even funny anymore, it’s gone way beyond that.

This time next year they will be miles ahead of us, you can quote me on that.

Totally agree, they're trying to progress and to be successful, hats off to them for that, it should what being a big club is about. Yes Keita who is joining in the summer will also be a big plus, he's comes with a big reputation and is supposed to be one of the most talented younger players around.

Totally agree with you, Arsenal is a joke of a big club to be honest, there's no ambition and nothing existing for the fans, it's one big disappointment these days, even some of the fans now hail mediocrity as if it's something to be proud about, embarassing all round. If this is Wenger's legacy I'd wave him goodbye and ask him to shut the door behind him.

[selassie]

You pay what you have to pay to get the player you want, if you want to be cheap you won't get him, so it kinda depends how serious you are about being successful, it seems Liverpool are pretty serious.

Respect to them, they don't have the finances of other clubs but are willing to pay what's needed to improve their team, their attack is pretty amazing but their defence is dodgy and they're trying to improve it.

Choice of spending nothing or signing nobodies or spending big bucks and signing proven players, I know which one I prefer.

Yep and you know the sad thing is Wenger will look at what Liverpool have done and digs his heels in more, the whole thing is pathetic. If he could unearth gems for nothing I’d have no issues with our policy but as it stands it’s a mess and is weakening our team to the point of negligence.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

A glass of fortune is worth a fortune to a man dying of thirst. If they win stuff with the signing of him and Keita then the fee is irrelevant.

We have the budget to sign a 75million pound defender but won’t because of the regime.

Good, I don't really see much in Van Dijk.

The fee is not irrelevant because spending £75 millon on a defender is using up resources where it might otherwise be needed, especially when it's highly likely Coutinho will be going.

Also, realistically what are Liverpool going to win?

Another also, why can't this just be insane, looking at it purely from someone who first and foremost is a fan of football? Why does it have to be in comparison to Arsenal?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Totally agree, they're trying to progress and to be successful, hats off to them for that, it should what being a big club is about. Yes Keita who is joining in the summer will also be a big plus, he's comes with a big reputation and is supposed to be one of the most talented younger players around.

Totally agree with you, Arsenal is a joke of a big club to be honest, there's no ambition and nothing existing for the fans, it's one big disappointment these days, even some of the fans now hail mediocrity as if it's something to be proud about, embarassing all round. If this is Wenger's legacy I'd wave him goodbye and ask him to shut the door behind him.

Weren't you recently going on about Arsenal dicking around purchasing a player and then when finally got that player had to spend more than they would've done originally?

Liverpool spending the same money on a defender that they sold Suarez for is just bonkers.

[selassie]

Good, I don't really see much in Van Dijk.

The fee is not irrelevant because spending £75 millon on a defender is using up resources where it might otherwise be needed, especially when it's highly likely Coutinho will be going.

Also, realistically what are Liverpool going to win?

Another also, why can't this just be insane, looking at it purely from someone who first and foremost is a fan of football? Why does it have to be in comparison to Arsenal?

I don’t think Van Dijk is a 75million pound defender, who is? but I do think he’s one of the best around in PL. He’s an all rounder, can pass, tackle, is decent in the air, quick on the ground, pretty decent reading of the game too, he has it all to reach the very top IMO.

Sure Coutinho is a big loss to Liverpool and it weakens them but at least they are resolving problem areas, that Naby Keita they signed is a top class young midfielder, he will go some way to seriously strengthening them. Besides, their attack is quality, they won’t struggle for goals without Coutinho, creativity may be an issue though.

I genuinely think they could win PL next season if they fix their weak areas, they need a new keeper for sure and maybe a full back but I don’t think they are a million miles away TBH.

TBF even if they don’t hoover up the trophies at least they are trying to be competitive. We have literally just given up.

[Cripps]

People are laughing at them for overpaying but as you rightly said they are addressing their weakest areas by purchasing the very best players available to them within their budget. That Naby Keita the midfielder they signed from Leipzig is absolute quality too.

They are putting us to shame in the ambition stakes, it’s not even funny anymore, it’s gone way beyond that.

This time next year they will be miles ahead of us, you can quote me on that.

We're onto stage 2 of the klopp project.

Stage 1 usually consists of him giving existing players a chance to prove themselves. He's a very loyal man. He assesses the squad and sees what he has to deal with.

Stage 2 is when he decides who won't make the cut and signs reinforcements.

Stage 2 is when the team usually steps up a notch.

[Özim]

Weren't you recently going on about Arsenal dicking around purchasing a player and then when finally got that player had to spend more than they would've done originally?

Liverpool spending the same money on a defender that they sold Suarez for is just bonkers.

Yes I did, it was Lemar we were trying to get, a guy we could have got for a fraction of what we offered if we'd not decided to lowball for a while, truth is we were only willing to pay up when most of the fee had been covered by the sale of Sanchez.

Liverpool want to improve, Suarez was sold year ago now, the market has changed, players cost more, it's not great but it is what it is, you can either be like Wenger and put in lowball bids which get you nowhere or stump up and get the player before someone else does. Liverpool have done the latter, you can see how poor their defence is and they're trying to do something about it.

As for Coutinho, unlike us in the past they've kept hold of him (just like they did when we went in for Suarez), they may well sell him for a huge fortune but they'll again have money to spend and their attack is still amazing even without him.

Quite honestly, I'm just sick of how cheap we are, I'd much prefer if we just paid up and got the players we need rather than wasting time with under market value bids and signings relative nobodies which turn out to be overpriced anyway (Xhaka).

[Globalgunner]

We are on stage 98 of the Wenger 100 step programme.
2% away from Tropheees!

[Özim]

Good, I don't really see much in Van Dijk.

The fee is not irrelevant because spending £75 millon on a defender is using up resources where it might otherwise be needed, especially when it's highly likely Coutinho will be going.

Also, realistically what are Liverpool going to win?

Another also, why can't this just be insane, looking at it purely from someone who first and foremost is a fan of football? Why does it have to be in comparison to Arsenal?

The value is irrelevant really, it's how much he's worth to Liverpool, if he tighens up their defence and allows them to challenge for the big prizes he'll be worth every penny, just like expensive signings before him. Liverpool have the money, they've got money from the CL and want to spend it on him and I respect that personally, better than keeping it in the bank.

Liverpool if they fi their defence will be one of the best teams and capable of winnign the big prizes, their attack is pretty amazing as it stands, they've got Keita coming as well.

[Cripps]

TBF even if they don’t hoover up the trophies at least they are trying to be competitive. We have literally just given up.

Spot on. They're breaking the record on the area of the team that needs most improving.

Meanwhile our fans are laughing. What are we doing about our dodgy defence? Going into the remaining games with Koscielny and Mustafi?