This Weekend's Fixtures & Man Utd v Stoke (13/14/15 Jan).

[Marc Overmars]

8 points away from the CL spot, 4th place trophy

Shows how bad things have got when we don't even have the 4th place trophy to play for.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I'm going to hold off until full time. We conceded 3 to you guys in no time at all, so City can certainly do it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hopefully this makes people realise Man City are beatable, especially in Europe, granted Liverpool are unbelievable going forward but still.

Liverpool are in a really good place, Van Dijk in, money to burn, already a top team, they're where we should be really. That's progression for you.

Fourth last season and fourth this? Well ok tbf third on GD currently.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I expect he'll play weaknened sides in the Europa and League cup to battle for that 4th place. Wengers luck has finally run out.

Europa League is the mathematical chance.

[Özim]

Fourth last season and fourth this?

They'll be 3rd tonight, and will probably chase 2nd, but more importantly they seem to be progressing on the pitch, the attack is electric and they've just starting addressing the defence as well.

It's more about how they are trying to build a team.

[Özim]

Shows how bad things have got when we don't even have the 4th place trophy to play for.

Yeah it was a gimme in the past, now we're nowhere near, eventually though if you stand still clubs catch up and overtake you, we rode our luck for too long and thought we were invincibles.

[Özim]

Bet the Ox is glad he made the move and even took a pay cut.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Fourth last season and fourth this? Well ok tbf third on GD currently.

Definitely on an upward trajectory. They can beat anyone on their day. Play the type of football we’d give one of our testes to watch.

[Cripps]

Hopefully this makes people realise Man City are beatable, especially in Europe, granted Liverpool are unbelievable going forward but still.

Liverpool are in a really good place, Van Dijk in, money to burn, already a top team, they're where we should be really. That's progression for you.

A keeper and they'll be next level.

[Özim]

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