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Thread: Winter Transfer Despair and Bafflement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    So basically everyone is leaving and we are signing everyone.

    #FakeNews

    It's what the media does best.

    Last summer Lemar was in and out of London like a rampant rabbit, according to the media. Deal Done! Lemar - Welcome to Arsenal! But in reality all that had really happened was we'd lowballed a few bids and the deal was nowhere. Hell, we were even signing Mbappe at one point, that's how ridiculous it was. Now we're signing Aubemayang and Malcolm and bringing in Mikytarian and the rest.

    Reading between the lines, sounds to me like the real business done in this window will be relegating Wenger to the sidelines. If we can manage that then it's a good window. If all we end up with is internal strife then all we've succeeded in doing is making a bigger mess.

    Alexis will go. We know that much. Looks like Theo will go too and Coquelin has already gone. We've signed some Greek kid for 2.2 mill who might be ready to step up some time in 2020, although with the state of our defence we'll probably throw him in to sink or swim. Sounds like we get 20 mill for Alexis after the agent pockets 10-15 mill. Sounds like 20 mill for Theo. Coquelin, 12.5 mill.

    So we're about plus 50 mill at the moment. Giroud's worth 25 mill I suppose. So that takes us to 75 mill. And that's what we have to play with, because we know we won't be spending any of that precious trove in the bank. That's needed for "stuff" they never explain.

    75 mill for Malcolm, Auba and Miki? That doesn't add up at all. Auba will probably end up costing 75 mill alone, once we reach trolley dash, desperation point. Malcolm is 45 mill now, and you can add to that as the window winds down. Miki would eat up a chunk of the Alexis deal. We'd have to stick another 50 mill on top to genuinely get these deals done and that's never happening in a January window. Not if Wenger gets his way.

    In the best circumstances you hear Wenger going on about how he likes the player, how he has qualiteeeeee. What's the chances of signing a player he doesn't like? And that's where the transfer window is for us this January. Who wins? Sven or Wenger. And supposedly the new team hasn't even started work yet. According to the media.

    It's all smoke and mirrors to keep the fans distracted while they set up another round of profit taking in the transfer window. Wait and see.
    The only issue with that is that as Kroenke doesn’t own the club making a profit in the transfer window benefits no one

    Even in this day and age of corrupt business practices, embezzlement is still embezzlement. If he owned the club I could definitely buy asset stripping. But I think it’s more no fucker wants to join Arsenal.

    And Dortmund, Aube has scored the vast majority of their goals, his contract is not up in six months. What’s the motivation to sell?

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    Asked if the club are trying to sign Alexis Sanchez, Conte says: 'I don't think so.'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbledore View Post
    Asked if the club are trying to sign Alexis Sanchez, Conte says: 'I don't think so.'

    That's us trying to keep Utd interested now the gypos have dropped out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The only issue with that is that as Kroenke doesn’t own the club making a profit in the transfer window benefits no one

    Even in this day and age of corrupt business practices, embezzlement is still embezzlement. If he owned the club I could definitely buy asset stripping. But I think it’s more no fucker wants to join Arsenal.

    And Dortmund, Aube has scored the vast majority of their goals, his contract is not up in six months. What’s the motivation to sell?
    Which is what Dortmund said this morning.

    Transfer windows are all about price gouging and paying off the hangers-on. They'll sell if we do what the gypos are Utd do, go in with an offer too big to refuse. If we are hoping to play the Wenger value game though, forget it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbledore View Post
    5live reporter:

    Understand Arsenal have offered a new deal to Jack Wilshere. The offer is less money than his current deal but it's heavily incentivised. #AFC

    Makes sense tbh
    This is a disgrace. Jack has been loyal, he's Arsenal through and through, he actually wants to be here and he gives it everything when he's on the pitch. Yes, he's been desperately unlucky with injuries, but how is that different to any of our players? The likes of Walcott and Welbeck are earning more than him and deliver as much as Jack has done while stuck in the treatment room - nothing. Who else is getting a pay cut? And what is the point of bonuses at Arsenal when there's no chance of us competing? Jack can't make us competitive on his own. You might as well agree to pay such bonuses in Monopoly money because they'll never happen anyway.

    Now we end up with a player who knows an injury hits him directly in the pocket. I wonder how that will work out? Good job Ozil's not on a contract like that or we'd never see him.

    Joke club. If they can get it wrong they will get it wrong. Either pay him what he's worth, which is a damn sight more than Theo Walcott or Danny Welbeck btw, or tell him he should leave. He might leave anyway I suppose, now he's been kicked in the nuts at a time when every other fucker in the game is raking in the cash.

    Shouldn't the goal be to try and keep as many of our decent and half decent players as possible? Because who else are we getting? Messi? Unless we win the Europa I doubt we'll even be in Europe next season, and then who wants to come here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    This is a disgrace. Jack has been loyal, he's Arsenal through and through, he actually wants to be here and he gives it everything when he's on the pitch. Yes, he's been desperately unlucky with injuries, but how is that different to any of our players? The likes of Walcott and Welbeck are earning more than him and deliver as much as Jack has done while stuck in the treatment room - nothing. Who else is getting a pay cut? And what is the point of bonuses at Arsenal when there's no chance of us competing? Jack can't make us competitive on his own. You might as well agree to pay such bonuses in Monopoly money because they'll never happen anyway.

    Now we end up with a player who knows an injury hits him directly in the pocket. I wonder how that will work out? Good job Ozil's not on a contract like that or we'd never see him.

    Joke club. If they can get it wrong they will get it wrong. Either pay him what he's worth, which is a damn sight more than Theo Walcott or Danny Welbeck btw, or tell him he should leave. He might leave anyway I suppose, now he's been kicked in the nuts at a time when every other fucker in the game is raking in the cash.

    Shouldn't the goal be to try and keep as many of our decent and half decent players as possible? Because who else are we getting? Messi? Unless we win the Europa I doubt we'll even be in Europe next season, and then who wants to come here?


    More things to frown about at AFC, it just gets worse tbh.

    WTF has Jack done to upset Wenker exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post


    More things to frown about at AFC, it just gets worse tbh.

    WTF has Jack done to upset Wenker exactly?
    Showing up the lazy players who don’t give a fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    This is a disgrace. Jack has been loyal, he's Arsenal through and through, he actually wants to be here and he gives it everything when he's on the pitch. Yes, he's been desperately unlucky with injuries, but how is that different to any of our players? The likes of Walcott and Welbeck are earning more than him and deliver as much as Jack has done while stuck in the treatment room - nothing. Who else is getting a pay cut? And what is the point of bonuses at Arsenal when there's no chance of us competing? Jack can't make us competitive on his own. You might as well agree to pay such bonuses in Monopoly money because they'll never happen anyway.

    Now we end up with a player who knows an injury hits him directly in the pocket. I wonder how that will work out? Good job Ozil's not on a contract like that or we'd never see him.

    Joke club. If they can get it wrong they will get it wrong. Either pay him what he's worth, which is a damn sight more than Theo Walcott or Danny Welbeck btw, or tell him he should leave. He might leave anyway I suppose, now he's been kicked in the nuts at a time when every other fucker in the game is raking in the cash.

    Shouldn't the goal be to try and keep as many of our decent and half decent players as possible? Because who else are we getting? Messi? Unless we win the Europa I doubt we'll even be in Europe next season, and then who wants to come here?
    He's a crock.

    Incentive based contract makes complete sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbledore View Post
    He's a crock.

    Incentive based contract makes complete sense.
    Jesus

    You’ve been here about three months and this might be the first time you’ve made a salient argument which makes me think, actually that’s a good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post


    More things to frown about at AFC, it just gets worse tbh.

    WTF has Jack done to upset Wenker exactly?
    Maybe his injuries haven't measured up to Diaby's?
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