The Mkhitaryan thread

[Cripps]

Play him on the wing I fear he will become a cautious and conservative player. Even Sanchez, who is more of an all out, one man wrecking machine, sometimes struggled to make an impact on games. I can't see Mikhi finding the same sort of level or impact we saw from Sanchez. We'll see when he arrives.

But Cazorla was bought as a winger and look what happened when he was played as CM. From what I seen of Mikhi, he's going to get us out of tight spaces with his quick feet, has a good shot on him and a creative passer. He isn't a hug the touchline and stretch play type of winger or a speedy dribbler that looks for one on one's.

There's becoming cautious and conservative by playing him on the wing and then there's becoming cautious and conservative by playing him in CM. They're two different worlds.

At least on the wing he can be closer to the opposition box and affect our play in the final third more, hopefully to the same level as his Dortmund days. In CM he has to think about his defensive duties and for a team hardly known for their defensive solidity, no thanks.

If you want a CM then buy one. Don't turn Mkhtaryan into one.

[Power n Glory]

There's becoming cautious and conservative by playing him on the wing and then there's becoming cautious and conservative by playing him in CM. They're two different worlds.

At least on the wing he can be closer to the opposition box and affect our play in the final third more, hopefully to the same level as his Dortmund days. In CM he has to think about his defensive duties and for a team hardly known for their defensive solidity, no thanks.

If you want a CM then buy one. Don't turn Mkhtaryan into one.

You missed the part where I said he's played there before and also the reference to Cazorla. Think of how effective Cazorla was as CM compared to when we played him on the wing. When we bought him from Spain, he was played as a winger and not CM.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Also, he did play CM and AM for Shaktar and during his early days for Dortmund.

Wenger hasn't lost the plot with this one. For what we require from our midfielders and having bought two recently in Xhaka and Elneny, we need someone technically gifted and created to help weave some magic in that area.

I'm totally with you on this one. Happy to see Mhki play where he is needed but to my mind he has similar qualities to Carzorla and that is no bad thing.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Nver realised how small Mkhitaryan is, he'll fit in well, certainly won't add much to the defensive side, anyone of normal size will brush him aside like he's not there, makes Wengers claim he can defend even more laughable.

I thought he looked about 5'9 before I checked and he turned out to be 5'10 on wikipedia. What were you expecting?

[Power n Glory]

I'm totally with you on this one. Happy to see Mhki play where he is needed but to my mind he has similar qualities to Carzorla and that is no bad thing.

Very similar qualities and there aren't many players out there that's mobile, technical and creative. Wenger's not out of his mind to suggest he can play through the middle.

[Cripps]

You missed the part where I said he's played there before and also the reference to Cazorla. Think of how effective Cazorla was as CM compared to when we played him on the wing. When we bought him from Spain, he was played as a winger and not CM.

I didn't miss it, I'm just not convinced. How many years ago was that? How many months adjusting does he need to become a top class central midfielder? He's 29 now, he's not a young player where he has time to develop and learn the central midfield role and master it. I'm happy to be proved wrong because central midfield is one of our weakest areas IMO. But stick him nearer to the opposition goal where he was effective at Dortmund. No messing around.

[Niall_Quinn]

The answer is to sack that cunt Wenger. Today!

Why does anyone think he'll get anything at all out of this player? He's fucked up every player that he's "coached" in the last half decade. Every player is performing at a lower level than would be the case if they were anywhere else. Even Alexis was fucked in the end. Ozil is finding a way to cope with Wenger's pointless bullshit, but he could be so much more effective. Same with Lacazette. Same with Mkhitaryan - so easy to predict this before he kicks a ball. Same will go for Aubameyang if he's crazy enough to come here.

Wenger's such a huge problem that no player can make a difference. It's been a while since Santi played. He'd be just as lost as the rest ofthem if he came back today. Our game has fallen off a cliff since Santi last played and it's not down to his absence, it's down to a huge degree of negativity that has been injected into the play by that cunt Wenger.

By far the most sensible thing to do to mitigate is to at least ensure players are in their best positions - according to the player btw, not the crackpot we have supposedly managing the team. Lacazette is a striker so he should be playing striker. If we sign Aubameyang then he's a striker too. So the only sane thing is to go to 4-4-2 or 4-3-3, else don't buy him or sell Lacazette. Those two formations take care of the Mkhitaryan question anyway. It's only because the crackpot wants to play his shit systems that these questions even arise.

We should stop fucking around and sack the cunt. If we really are splashing another 75 mill this window (I'll believe it if it ever happens and not a second before), the how can we possibly entertain the idea of this cunt managing the team. It's insane.

And he will definitely fuck it up. Definitely. There's no question.

[Power n Glory]

I didn't miss it, I'm just not convinced. How many years ago was that? How many months adjusting does he need to become a top class central midfielder? He's 29 now, he's not a young player where he has time to develop and learn the central midfield role and master it. I'm happy to be proved wrong because central midfield is one of our weakest areas IMO. But stick him nearer to the opposition goal where he was effective at Dortmund. No messing around.

How would you describe Mkhtaryan? What do you notice about his game and his strongest qualities?

[Niall_Quinn]

How would you describe Mkhtaryan? What do you notice about his game and his strongest qualities?

Thing I noticed about him last couple of times I watched him play for Utd is he's horribly inconsistent. One minute he can make a decent pass. Next he can't pass 5 yards. And he seemed to have a lot of trouble getting the ball under control. Can't cross either, but I think we consider that a plus at our place.

This could be a confidence thing. But I wonder how much of a confidence boost it will be playing under Wenger.

He's looked a very, very ordinary player when I've seen him play recently. In fact I remarked on it in during the last Utd game I watched, before it was speculated he'd be coming here. He stood out as a weak link in that match.

[Özim]

I thought he looked about 5'9 before I checked and he turned out to be 5'10 on wikipedia. What were you expecting?

I was referring to his build more than anything, he seems to have tiny arms, he's a very slim build.