Summer transfer joy and happiness

[Globalgunner]

So you think his actual issue is that he was a LW and not that he simply didn't have what it took to be a top player?

Do you think Messi would have been a great LB/RB?

Do you think Bolt would be a great cricketer.

If you were a great swimmer in school. Would you heed your coach telling you to take up gymnastics instead?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Had Messi been a Full back would you be complaining when he got to a point in his career when fans who'd been 'Wengered' had the temerity to question whether he could be an excellent forward rather than full back?

And would you be saying....don't change his position, he's too small, too weak, don't play with a players position etc etc....

[Globalgunner]

Had Messi been a Full back would you be complaining when he got to a point in his career when fans who'd been 'Wengered' had the temerity to question whether he could be an excellent forward rather than full back?

And would you be saying....don't change his position, he's too small, too weak, don't play with a players position etc etc....

If Wenger had been his manager. Yes. The only..success Wenger has had with positional change is Henry.....
Otherwise it has been a catalogue of errors. You should be basing your opinions on Wengers track record...not on winning a pointless argument.

Wenger does these things because he is cheap. Change a players position instead of buying someone fit for purpose. It hardly works. Gio van Bronkhurst...midfielder of some repute. Wenger signs him....Hey presto he is a LB. He also does it because of ego and his insatiable need for adulation....In the offchance it works,, the press will laud him as a great seer. If it doesnt and we still make top 4...then the old legend of fighting the good fight on the cheap goes on.

[Penguin]

Why on earth would you do that

It’s like turning on the air conditioning in your flat when there’s a raging fire in the corridor

We need players that have pace and are strong on the ball in central midfield and AMN is a central midfielder

Because the discussion was about RB not CM. Blink mentioned AMN as competition to Bellerin and I agree that he has the tools to be very good there. Bellerin needs a kick up the arse and I could see AMN doing a job there like Ox did last season.

But yeah CM is a concern. I haven't really seen AMN in CM but I'm not holding my breath after seeing how our other 'home coached' CMs turned out. Wilshere and Ramsey still to this day can't defend or control the midfield. I'm all for giving him a chance though.

[Power n Glory]

Quince wouldnt mind AMN have a run in goal to replace Cech. Some of us are guilty of the same numptiness that Wenger personifies. Somebody plays well in one position for all his adolescence years and more. Wenger buys him and plays him in a completely different position.....Fans start blaming the player. AMN deserves a chance in the midfield. In a few years from now we will hear the kid refuses to extend his contract and we under why.

It’s not that straight forward. I can see why Blink thinks AMN can play RB. He’s looking at his attributes as a player. That’s always the starting point. There isn’t anything in his game physically or technically that should stop him from being able to play RB. Where Wenger fails as a coach is on the mental side. Helping a player develop their understanding and reading of the game is his weak point. On some occasions, he plays certain players in a position they clearly don’t have the attributes for. That’s where there is a bit of a muddle in your argument.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If Wenger had been his manager. Yes. The only..success Wenger has had with positional change is Henry.....
Otherwise it has been a catalogue of errors. You should be basing your opinions on Wengers track record...not on winning a pointless argument.

Wenger does these things because he is cheap. Change a players position instead of buying someone fit for purpose. It hardly works. Gio van Bronkhurst...midfielder of some repute. Wenger signs him....Hey presto he is a LB. He also does it because of ego and his insatiable need for adulation....In the offchance it works,, the press will laud him as a great seer. If it doesnt and we still make top 4...then the old legend of fighting the good fight on the cheap goes on.

As I've already stated, my view is based on what I see and what I know of academies and how they actually work in terms of players playing in different positions. You thought it necessary to bring Wenger into this as a factor as you and many seem obsessed with the idea that if an opinion is held that is not in opposition to Wenger's every action, that its a result of being Wengerised.

[HCZ]

As I've already stated, my view is based on what I see and what I know of academies and how they actually work in terms of players playing in different positions. You thought it necessary to bring Wenger into this as a factor as you and many seem obsessed with the idea that if an opinion is held that is not in opposition to Wenger's every action, that its a result of being Wengerised.

I don’t object to AMN playing there in of itself, I just think when we lack dynamism in central midfield so desperately it seems to be a waste to play him at fullback

Bellerin seems to have lost confidence, I don’t think he’s suddenly become a bad player

[Globalgunner]

The counter to the argument is to give us a success story of Wenger converting a player to a new position and it being a resounding success. In theory anything is possible wrt to player development. Which other storied manager do you hear boasting about how he converts players to new positions. And yes it is all about Wenger. Did Fergie go about converting players. Do international managers play players in wrong positions. Noi they dont each p;lays the best player in the best position...That is how you win big things.

Please tell me which player Wenger has brilliantly converted to any position. Instead of developing players he befuddles them and stunts their development. Djourou, Senderos, Chambers, and many others.

Do not be confused..it is all about Wenger that was the original position I proposed to you. You are also now finding your self suckered into his delusions. He wont play AMN in CM because his favourites are all there Xhaka Ramsey etc. If all that matters is AMN playing somewhere then so be it. Why not GK, CB?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I could continue this but frankly I simply can't be arsed once I see the pattern of someone repeatedly missing/ignoring key points.

[Cripps]