Agreed, his European record is a shocker, the team we had in those days should have won the CL, the fact they didn't is 100% down to him and his inability to give players that real belief they can do it. Never forget the year Chelsea knocked us out, that was our year and for me one of the worst defeats (in terms of how I felt) to take.Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wenger sent the team into that game moaning how the fixture schedule had fucked us and how tired everyone was. Lo and behold, we ran out of steam in the second half and the chavs took an entirely undeserved victory. That was one of the first big cracks to open up. There was writing on the wall by that stage but very few people wanted to see it (myself included I admit).
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Not only does he fail to motivate players, he demotivates them with his constant complaints about how we're hard done by. In those days at least we had real leaders on the pitch that would devliver despite his efforts to sabotage things on the whole, but with his aversion to leaders on the pitch now days there's no hope.
Wenger had failings even back then? Who knew
I know there are pro Wenger people who tried to make out he was infallible but it really wasn’t ever the case
Because Wenger is completely stale his failings are far more immediate. It wasn’t that you were somehow missing something back then, it’s that a manager free of flaws doesn’t exist. I agree he’s not one of the all time greats because he hasn’t won in Europe or won back to back titles but he was up against better managers and teams with more money even then.
I don’t see the need to forensically analyse the past, what he achieved back in the day was both excellent and impressive. But those days are long gone and he’s been riding on the corpse of that past success for too long.
We analyse the past to try to get some handle on the inexplicable present. Even with his prior record, how can he still be a manager at a big club like Arsenal? It's so perplexing. Which brings us to another aspect of this man. His rank dishonesty. He's been at the heart of fleecing the fans and has strived to give the absolute bare minimum back. That's the primary reason I hate the bloke now. Yes, he's been shown up s a fraud in terms of his competency, but far worse, he's been shown up to be a self serving liar. He never loved the club, because the fans are part of the club. Something he tolerates with a sneer while lifting their wallets.
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End of the day you have a board that more or less knew nothing about football, a manager who wasn’t asking for much apart from a nice salary which in the great schemes of the clubs expenditure isn’t asking for a lot and said manager was able to deliver on modest expectations ie keep the club in the champions league whilst it remained self sufficient whilst paying off the stadium
The problem with that was, that was the goal in of itself and the can kept getting kicked down the line after it was rightly asked. Well what now
And that lack of forward planning means a manager who is totally out of date was kept on and that procrastinating and not taking the right decision when it was needed is really showing.
Even the decision to award Wenger his new contract was complacency, well we won’t have to think about this for another year or so and he will probably get us back into the top four anyway.
So in that sense what he achieved in terms of titles doesn’t really have that much bearing on why he’s kept in the job. As for fans still backing him, they are constantly polling satisfaction rates with managers and Wenger is consistently the lowest in the top six. The ones who argue blacks white about keeping him are people who just won’t ever admit they are wrong and will never change their minds about something
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