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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Who did we have available that has shown some fight in prior derby matches?

    Rosicky. Benched.
    Walcott. Benched.

    Who did we have yesterday who was showing a bit of fight?

    Welbeck. Subbed.

    Who was having a bad day yesterday?

    Ramsey. 90 minutes.
    Ozil. 90 minutes.

    Who was getting murdered yesterday?

    Bellerin.

    Who, after all these years, still doesn't understand there's more to football than GPS heat maps, computer generated fatigue indexes and broccoli absorption rates?

    Wenger
    Your first good post tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    Our record in the big games (City, Chelsea, Man ure and Liverpool-ish-) is really bad and we needed to win at a big away ground to sooner or later to prove out worth and we did that. Spuds are a beter side this season but its a local derby and anything can happen, we were absent on the day and thats why i dont think it was significant.

    Its also worth noting that you need a bit of luck to go your way and yesterday we didnt really have that (their first goal for example, the ball fell to their best player).

    All in all, i think we will show consistancy as we always do in the 2nd half of the season and Wenger knows his precious 4th place is in danger of slipping away so he'll do whats required.

    After the City game, you said it might have been the wake up call we needed but we'll see after the Spurs game. So why, after losing, is the result now unimportant? Especially after that comment came after agreeing with Fakeyank's post about us having a good squad but being let down by Wenger's lack of tactics and poor man management.

    Didn't yesterday's game show that Wenger hasn't really learned much considering yesterday's squad selection and the tactics? You agree that Rosicky and Walcott should have started, right?

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    The real Monreal - this is why we can't be doing with players like this. Can you imagine Keown in that position?

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    That's a strange comparison considering Keown was a CB.... but I agree he probably isn't the long term answer. I thought Bellerin had just as dodgy a game if not worse. Not the end of the world though as any player of his age will have a lot to learn in that position that his talent/ability isn't going to necessarily or naturally iron out for him.

    From memory though, there winner was scored by a striker smaller, slower and weaker than Koscielny and Per collectively rising between the two of them and nodding it in. One of them has to deal with that better at that stage in the game.

    Keown wouldn't have allowed that to happen. Per has had a dodgy season and Koscielny is certainly not faultless.

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    That's a strange comparison considering Keown was a CB....
    Don't mean positionally. I mean in terms of attacking the ball and clearing everything out if necessary. We've seen too many defenders cowering and watching proceedings at crucial moments this season. For sure, Kos shouldn't have been beaten to that ball. But he was and Monreal was in a position to at least make a nuisance of himself. Look at the body shape. Look at the fact there's 2 spuds in there on one man. It's a snapshot, Monreal might not have been able to make it. But look at the body shape. Reminiscent of Merts when he bottled that challenge a few weeks ago. Our guys can't do the rough stuff and we pay the price on a regular basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The real Monreal - this is why we can't be doing with players like this. Can you imagine Keown in that position?

    It's endemic across our defenders, mertesacker leading the charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    After the City game, you said it might have been the wake up call we needed but we'll see after the Spurs game. So why, after losing, is the result now unimportant? Especially after that comment came after agreeing with Fakeyank's post about us having a good squad but being let down by Wenger's lack of tactics and poor man management.

    Didn't yesterday's game show that Wenger hasn't really learned much considering yesterday's squad selection and the tactics? You agree that Rosicky and Walcott should have started, right?
    The loss to Spurs wasnt down to lack of big game mentality, it wasnt down to tactics, it wasnt down to individual erros, it was down to a very poor display on the day and yes, the manager was mostly at fault because he didnt seem to do anything about it. However, Wenger hasnt suddenly changed his stubborn ways in one game (city away) and his old habbits still remain (wrong subs on saturday). When we go to Man ure (our only big away game left) it will tell us a lot more about our ability to win the big away games than Saturday did.

    Our squad right now is a lot more ballanced than before, we have competeton for places (but whether wenger continues to select his favourites is a different argument) and genuine quality is almost every position.

    Put it this way, had we won on saturday, i wouldnt come here and say we have definitely made a turnaround and can beat anyone in this league. Beating Spuds for me has always been because we have had better players and a better manager more than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    The loss to Spurs wasnt down to lack of big game mentality, it wasnt down to tactics, it wasnt down to individual erros, it was down to a very poor display on the day and yes, the manager was mostly at fault because he didnt seem to do anything about it. However, Wenger hasnt suddenly changed his stubborn ways in one game (city away) and his old habbits still remain (wrong subs on saturday). When we go to Man ure (our only big away game left) it will tell us a lot more about our ability to win the big away games than Saturday did.

    Our squad right now is a lot more ballanced than before, we have competeton for places (but whether wenger continues to select his favourites is a different argument) and genuine quality is almost every position.

    Put it this way, had we won on saturday, i wouldnt come here and say we have definitely made a turnaround and can beat anyone in this league. Beating Spuds for me has always been because we have had better players and a better manager more than anything else.
    Now the Manure game will tell us more? But last week you said the Spurs game would tell us more. That's my point. Shifting goal posts slightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Now the Manure game will tell us more? But last week you said the Spurs game would tell us more. That's my point. Shifting goal posts slightly.
    Trust me, im telling it the way i see it. No shifting goal posts because we all know what our problems are. A loss to spurs is always hard to take but i really cant see much beyond the fact that it was a loss in a local derby.

    Ive probably been one of our biggest critics this season but i really cant see anything in this loss other than the manager getting the subs wrong and letting us down again with his lakc of game change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The real Monreal - this is why we can't be doing with players like this. Can you imagine Keown in that position?

    Kos should be the focus on that goal. He wasn't marking tight enough and missed the header. Also, I have no idea why we always fall asleep when it's a throw in. We let them cross the ball into our box unchallenged.

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