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    They're not that kind of club ™

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    Yep, starting to sound like a media stitch-up. Not to excuse the assholes in the carriage, but apparently they were pushing out ANYONE who tried to get in because the carriage was already packed. But only the incident with the black guy has been highlighted by the media.

    As for the chanting, chav fans are claiming this is a chant related to the John Terry incident. Sounds a bit dubious.

    What probably happened.

    Chavs jammed on to a train, some of them are unsavoury characters to say the least. Like you get with all clubs.

    Chavs at door proceed to push other passengers off because the carriage is already packed. Not nice, but not racist.

    Some of the thicker chavs start singing racist chants in response to one of the incidents. Well they are pig ignorant and dragged up in a gutter, what would you expect? You've all encountered the type, no doubt. Are they even Chelsea fans or just a bunch of nutters along for the ride?

    Media gets the footage, carefully edits it and turns it into a race incident. Story hits the headlines. Papers are bought. Links are clicked.

    Question. Who are the bigger racists? The yobs chanting or the media hacks? The former don't know any better, the latter should.

    Love them or loathe them, you can't hold the club responsible for this and teh action that has already been taken is sufficient in terms of the club and the thickos causing trouble.

    What about the media hacks though? What should be done to them? Or should they just be allowed to carry on shouting fire in a theatre to grab attention for their shoddy and happily disappearing industry? What should happen to a wilfully ignorant prick like Neil Ashton who has 20/20 vision some of the time but is blind as a bat the rest? Should he be allowed to continue in his privileged role that still carries a degree of influence? Hardly. But he will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Question. Who are the bigger racists? The yobs chanting or the media hacks? The former don't know any better, the latter should.
    It's the yobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It's the yobs.
    So you're a fan of tackling the symptoms to cure a problem? That's okay, most people are. It's more convenient that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    So you're a fan of tackling the symptoms to cure a problem? That's okay, most people are. It's more convenient that way.
    You asked a question, I answered it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    You asked a question, I answered it
    I'm being serious. If you think mindless yobs are a bigger problem than a media that can't report the truth and actually seeks to pour petrol on fires then you aren't thinking straight.

    Here's the Daily Trollograph (a tabloid masquerading as a newspaper)



    What you don't see is the fact 99.999999% of chav fans have come out and roundly condemned these thugs (the yobs on the train I mean, not the media suited and booted assholes). There are laws in place to deal with the idiots on the train. They are a page 18 story, I already gave reference to page 1 stories that don't get discussed at all. Prosecute them and be done with it. But if we aren't going to tackle media and the government and multi-nationals and the structural racism they promote and even hype on a daily basis (shit that results in people getting killed, lots and lots of people) then why even bother with a couple of loons on a train? It's just a sticking plaster for show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    If you think mindless yobs are a bigger problem than a media that can't report the truth and actually seeks to pour petrol on fires then you aren't thinking straight.
    I certainly didn't say but in terms of overt, on the street racism, Chelsea fans win hands down.
    Not all of them, obviously, probably not even many of them. But there is a real nasty element at that club, I've witnessed first time their racist abuse (I've not seen it from any other fans) and even if the video has been edited and they were pushing other, white people off the train, the chant does them no favours.

    Obviously the media are stirrers and distort the truth to breaking point, but we all knew that.

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    Don't know what it's like now but in the 80s and 90s the levels of racism at football was far worse in the north. Particularly places like Newcastle and Sunderland where it was unashamedly overt and widespread.
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    Clearly racism and a very accurate representation of all Chelsea fans as we'd all agree.

    The media have done a good job on this.

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    Real Madrid playing in some pinkish red. Unerring somehow.

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