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Thread: Winter Transfer Window Intrigue and Excitement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMatthews View Post
    Utd have a family who have piled hundreds of millions of debt into the club and taken almost a billion out of it. Even the commercial deals haven’t covered that.
    True but in all fairness Man U have spent a fortune on players, they've brought top players in, the club has never held bank on transfer money, it's the opposite with us, a lot of the transfer money has been covered by player sales.

    So it's been lose lose for the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Both seem to be nailed on first choice under Emery. Both have improved quite a bit...but I'm still not sold on either player.

    We have bigger issues to deal with...to be honest...we only seem to have a couple of positions which are locked, the rest are a mixed bag with players coming in and out of the team.

    I have no idea what the long term plan is, if we really are as skint as what is being reported...seems dubious to me....then we are going to need to blood Youth, we have no other option.
    Xhaka I can stomach though I think he makes far too many stupid mistakes to be a regular part of a title winning side.....but Mustafi can be fired out of a cannon. He's a bit better but still way below what is required for the fans' ambitions.

    We are not showing signs of a club that HAVE to get into the CL next season we are showing signs of a club who would really like to. If Emery fails to get us back in and he is fired, he will have some legitimate grievances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    Xhaka I can stomach though I think he makes far too many stupid mistakes to be a regular part of a title winning side.....but Mustafi can be fired out of a cannon. He's a bit better but still way below what is required for the fans' ambitions.

    We are not showing signs of a club that HAVE to get into the CL next season we are showing signs of a club who would really like to. If Emery fails to get us back in and he is fired, he will have some legitimate grievances.
    I agree on both Mustafi being shot out of a cannon... he is so bad not even a Chinese club offering silly money is interested.

    Also I agree that the club doesn't seem to be pushing to get a top 4 spot. If we were you would think we would be looking to buy in January. But loan moves and rumours that we lack cash sound like we are preparing for more years out of the CL places then making a push to get back into the top 4.

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    I like the fact Emery was at least candid enough to explain what the situation was.

    His employers probably won't like it but for the fans it's much better to have some clarity rather than the cloak and dagger nonsense Wenger used to put us through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I like the fact Emery was at least candid enough to explain what the situation was.

    His employers probably won't like it but for the fans it's much better to have some clarity rather than the cloak and dagger nonsense Wenger used to put us through.
    Yeah agreed nice to have someone who is honest about the situation at last, there's a lot I like about Emery, my only real concerns are his seemingly favourable opinion of Xhaka and Mustafi that are substandard and that I want out of the club (to free up wages as well).

    As far as the money is concerned, we spent in relative terms peanuts last summer and now we don't have any money, loan deals don't give you many options, I guess we'll stick with what we have and hope Emery pulls off a miracle or wins the Europa, although with Chelsea in there it isn't a gimme.

    I honestly don't know how this club got itself in this mess, got to be down to pure incompetence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post

    I honestly don't know how this club got itself in this mess, got to be down to pure incompetence.
    Think we've wasted a lot of money since the stadium was paid off and we don't get any value for our players that leave, Oxlade is perhaps the only exception to this in recent memory. I mean, Wilshere, Ramsey and probably Welbeck all leaving without a transfer fee, that's got to be around 80m in today's market? We also passed up on 60m for Alexis when it was clear he no longer wanted to be here but he was instead moved on 6 months later and we got an average player in return.

    We also broke our wage structure for Ozil and I imagine Auba and Laca aren't too far behind. Mkhi too.

    Seems like the club is trying to do a bit of housekeeping to me and we won't really know the state of play until the summer.

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    KSE taking our club nowhere. We couldn’t run a bath, yet we are a self sustaining model? What kind of model let’s top players contracts run down, and then have zero transfer value? It’s laughable, we are being sold a lie. The Adidas money is going straight to LA, Arsenal will see fuck all.

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    The strategy seemed iffy in the summer and the situation stinks right now. Of course the club can't come out and say, we'd really like to be in the CL....but we don't absolutely have to be (though it is pointed we have previously said words to that effect in the past) but all the signs show that that is the case.

    No point in us all saying Emery needs a few windows if he doesn't actually get to spend anything in 1 or 2 of those windows. I initially thought the club might have set his minimum target as 4th/Europa league winners but I am increasingly doubtful of that giving our behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Think we've wasted a lot of money since the stadium was paid off and we don't get any value for our players that leave, Oxlade is perhaps the only exception to this in recent memory. I mean, Wilshere, Ramsey and probably Welbeck all leaving without a transfer fee, that's got to be around 80m in today's market? We also passed up on 60m for Alexis when it was clear he no longer wanted to be here but he was instead moved on 6 months later and we got an average player in return.

    We also broke our wage structure for Ozil and I imagine Auba and Laca aren't too far behind. Mkhi too.

    Seems like the club is trying to do a bit of housekeeping to me and we won't really know the state of play until the summer.
    I’ll keep saying it, but Laca is one we could get rid of. I’ve nothing against him and like his physicality but he hasn’t been a roaring success at what he was bought to do - score goals. He’s at Giroud levels so far. We’d get £60-80m for him. Bellerin is another, although he’s key to how Emery wants to play. A young, fast, attacking right back with another 4 years on his contract would get us great money, especially as he’d fit right into the way a numebrkf teams want to play today.

    Liverpool sold Sterling and Coutinho and spent well in return (alright, they bought Benteke) along with their planned transfer budgets. It’s what we have to do too.

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    How do we not have any money? It doesnt make sense to me. If somebody ran the numbers, I'd love to see how we have $0 for transfers and wages. Our wage bill barring Ozil cant be that high.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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