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    It's simple, sack emery and make freddie caretaker manager

    No big deal if we then get someone else in later, but if he picks the right team and gets them playing more enjoyable football i'll accept it if not everything goes our way, we just can't have any more of this crap

    Btw Wrighty completely slammed Xhaka on MOTD, good for him

    Also they showed how BS it was to strike off Sokratis's second, absolute disgrace that Atkinson didn't look for himself on the screen

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    How come VAR works in Rugby but not Football? Are they being watched by actual full time ref's or the footballing equivalent of PCSO's wannabe's who will never make the grade...
    And here we have it.

    Jarred Gillett was the VAR official for Arsenal's clash with Palace. A 32-year-old Australian, Gillett has never taken charge of a Premier League game, with his refereeing experience in England limited to nine Football League fixtures.
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    Disappointing result but not unexpected. I think we have all realised that Emery is totally out of his depth. The Xhaka/Ozil situation is 100% the manager's making and a clearer example of a small, stubborn man making decisions on the basis of his own ego rather than for the good of the team is difficult to imagine. When a club is in the situation that we are in it is generally the result of a combination of factors - club management; players and coach. IMHO in our case, it is down to a manager who has become kryptonite to his team. I think that Freddie would be more likely to be a Solskjaer than a Lampard (which is not to criticise him but a comment on his lack of managerial experience and the fact that he would need a lot of time to cement his role), but nevertheless I would take him in place of the Dracula lookalike in charge at present.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazthegooner View Post
    How come VAR works in Rugby but not Football?
    Rugby is more stop-start, it does make it easier. But they don't seem to have got VAR right yet, by all accounts it robbed us of 2 points yesterday.
    The whole point of it was to make decisions better and right now it isn't doing that.

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    I guess it's been around a long time in rugby so they've got use to it, but I'm not sure how many people are looking at VAR, but IMO there should be maybe 2-3 people assessing the decision and the ref certainly should have a look too if the decision reverses his effectively.

    I think if that had happened it would have been a goal. Doesn't take away from the fact this game should have been won before that though, we left ourselves open to a decision affecting the game like that with another poor performance, when we start turning up and performing then people might have more sympathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Rugby is more stop-start, it does make it easier. But they don't seem to have got VAR right yet, by all accounts it robbed us of 2 points yesterday.
    The whole point of it was to make decisions better and right now it isn't doing that.
    if football's about entertainment then VAR is absolutely robbing us of it - all tata joy of thinking we had the winner rubbed out because someone thought Chambo did anything worse than all the other players involved in that goalmouth scramble.

    shocking decision, there was no 'clear and obvious error' within ten miles of the incident - why the fuhk didn't Atkinson check it out for himself - apart from the fact he was so biased towards Palace in that game, that is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    if football's about entertainment then VAR is absolutely robbing us of it - all tata joy of thinking we had the winner rubbed out.
    I imagine the Palace fans found it entertaining...
    The issue I have is that the whole point of VAR is to get stuff right.
    We were in a ridiculous situation with instant replays where sometimes everyone in the stadium would know a mistake had been made apart from the referee. Clearly ridiculous.
    But too often VAR isn't even getting stuff right. If it can't do that then it's pointless and doing more harm than good.

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    The guy in charge of the VAR yesterday has never ref'd a premier league match only having ref experience in 9 footbal league fixture's its like having someone re-wire your house because he once chnged a plug.

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    We are a badly run club

    I don't have any faith in any of our decision makers. The Barca and Spanish brigade needs to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I imagine the Palace fans found it entertaining...
    The issue I have is that the whole point of VAR is to get stuff right.
    We were in a ridiculous situation with instant replays where sometimes everyone in the stadium would know a mistake had been made apart from the referee. Clearly ridiculous.
    But too often VAR isn't even getting stuff right. If it can't do that then it's pointless and doing more harm than good.
    VAR works when its clear cut... offside, crossing the goal line, handballs they are yes or no... think it can be a bit more contentious for fouls as slowing the action down can make things look worse than they are. maybe leave VAR for the yes or no answers with no interpretation required.

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