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    Problem is defensively we cant be much better anyway. Bellerin and holding injured. Sokratis has been so poor. Who else can play in the back four. Xhaka plays because we dont have much choice.

    It is bizarre that torreira and pepe dont start. Why not play laca auba pepe with ozil behind. Toreira plus one sitting deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble View Post
    Problem is defensively we cant be much better anyway. Bellerin and holding injured. Sokratis has been so poor. Who else can play in the back four. Xhaka plays because we dont have much choice.
    Didn't know holding was injured but we should absolutely be starting Tierney ahead of Kola and i'd rather have almost anyone except Mustafi, even bring Medley in

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    Btw I read somewhere that Ozil, Kola and Mustafi are a bit of a clique at the club and i wonder if Freddie is trying to get them onside by starting them all...

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    I guess the issue with someone from within being in charge is their probably friends with the players and that doesn't give them an unbiased view, some of the selections today were horrendous, which bit of Xhaka is finished at Arsenal don't they understand?

    Can't wait to get a new manager in with a fresh approach and no pre-conceived ideas about the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I guess the issue with someone from within being in charge is their probably friends with the players and that doesn't give them an unbiased view, some of the selections today were horrendous, which bit of Xhaka is finished at Arsenal don't they understand?

    Can't wait to get a new manager in with a fresh approach and no pre-conceived ideas about the players.
    Ljunberg out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I guess the issue with someone from within being in charge is their probably friends with the players and that doesn't give them an unbiased view, some of the selections today were horrendous, which bit of Xhaka is finished at Arsenal don't they understand?

    Can't wait to get a new manager in with a fresh approach and no pre-conceived ideas about the players.
    although surely a manager will have pre-conceived ideas about the players... unless they have never seen them play before . otherwise you are advocating that if mustafi and xhaka did well in training then they should be picked by the new manager.

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    Arsenal: Leno, Chambers, Mustafi, David Luiz, Kolasinac, Xhaka, Guendouzi, Willock, Ozil, Aubameyang, Lacazette.
    Subs: Martinez, Sokratis, Tierney, Torreira, Pepe, Saka, Martinelli.

    This was our starting squad yesterday. Im pretty sure 95% of us would have made a better starting 11 than the ones Freddie chose. The real test is if he stick with the same squad for the next game. Sokratis/Mustafi is a choice between bad and awful. Maybe it will make both up their game a bit. But truth is we need to ship both out. Their reading of the game is atrocious. If we are serious we need at least 1 CB in January. Either of the Norwich defenders would be better than what we have but I would really love us to go for Tyrone Mings at Villa. Really great up coming defender.

    My biggest gripe with this team is our uncoordinated play. the way we seem to be totally open at times. Norwich would look like 15 years olds against any top CL team and they made us sweat bullets yesterday.

    Not much reason to be cheerful yet, but im so glad Emery is gone. the man has ruined his reputation completely with the last 18 months.

    Can I also addf that Guendouzi needs a spot on the sidelines. He needs to maybe see the game from the outside looking in.
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    Increasingly coming round to the idea that we should cash in on Lacazette while his stock remains good. I actually think he’s been a downgrade on Giroud. Just putting it out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Arsenal: Leno, Chambers, Mustafi, David Luiz, Kolasinac, Xhaka, Guendouzi, Willock, Ozil, Aubameyang, Lacazette.
    Subs: Martinez, Sokratis, Tierney, Torreira, Pepe, Saka, Martinelli.

    This was our starting squad yesterday. Im pretty sure 95% of us would have made a better starting 11 than the ones Freddie chose. The real test is if he stick with the same squad for the next game. Sokratis/Mustafi is a choice between bad and awful. Maybe it will make both up their game a bit. But truth is we need to ship both out. Their reading of the game is atrocious. If we are serious we need at least 1 CB in January. Either of the Norwich defenders would be better than what we have but I would really love us to go for Tyrone Mings at Villa. Really great up coming defender.

    My biggest gripe with this team is our uncoordinated play. the way we seem to be totally open at times. Norwich would look like 15 years olds against any top CL team and they made us sweat bullets yesterday.

    Not much reason to be cheerful yet, but im so glad Emery is gone. the man has ruined his reputation completely with the last 18 months.

    Can I also addf that Guendouzi needs a spot on the sidelines. He needs to maybe see the game from the outside looking in.
    Totally agree, almost anyone would have picked a better team, pretty shocked at how amateurish that lineup was, it's like he's been brainwashed into the Arsenal way of the last decade, playing sub standard players. Worried me when Josh Kroenke talked about Ljungberg and Arsenal DNA, for a start Kroenke knows nothing about but also Arsenal DNA seems to have become lack of effort and hunger and bottling every opportunity for success, we need to bring someone to change this now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble View Post
    although surely a manager will have pre-conceived ideas about the players... unless they have never seen them play before . otherwise you are advocating that if mustafi and xhaka did well in training then they should be picked by the new manager.
    Yeah but people from within the club has this weird twisted perception about some of our players, why would anyone actually play Mustafi and Xhaka and Kolasinac when they've been watching them in week in week out, it makes zero sense, frankly I couldn't care less about training, it's not like a real match, I'm shocked at the lineup Ljungberg put together, makes me think the guy has learnt nothing and can't see who isn't good enough.

    We just need someone new who has never been involved with this club who can ruffle a few feathers and recognises when someone isn't up to scratch, really tired of seeing illogical decisions, terrible lineups and players in the team that should be sold. Shame we missed out on Mourinho, he would soon ahve got rid of these players that are rubbish and don't work for the team.

    Get a new manager ASAP.

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