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    Great Performance is a bit much as we just tried to defend our 1-0 lead without really taking game to chelsea when we had the chance. We had a great chance to beat them and chucked it away in last 10 mins.

    Blaming the ref is easy and distracts us from some improvement but still the weaknesses exist.

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    Took too long making changes again if you ask me.

    I don't know why Willock keeps being the first alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    Took too long making changes again if you ask me.

    I don't know why Willock keeps being the first alternative.
    I think if you look at Nelson's performance today you will see why a coach with a bit of savvy like Willock. Willock is a very, very good football player. In a very, very bad team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumble View Post
    Great Performance is a bit much as we just tried to defend our 1-0 lead without really taking game to chelsea when we had the chance. We had a great chance to beat them and chucked it away in last 10 mins.

    Blaming the ref is easy and distracts us from some improvement but still the weaknesses exist.
    This was the issue for me. Good teams who sit back and defend still do something at the other end. We didn’t and because of that Chelsea could push further up without having to worry about being countered. It was a shocker from Leno but inviting pressure is never a good idea unless it’s methodical. For us it felt like we were hell bent on defending the 1-0 like our lives depended on it but gave no thought for what we could do to Chelsea to make them sweat.

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    Chelsea were commiting a foul per minute and somehow ended up with only four bookings compared to five for Arsenal.

    That tells you everything about this utter cretin of a referee.

    This and the fact we're going through another injury spree will be overlooked by a mindless media feeding the crisis angle and fuckwit fans who had already set their agenda.

    The most important thing is though, despite the limitations and difficulties he's been sledgehammered with in his first week in the job, Arteta has made an instant improvement to so many aspects of our play. And that gives hope despite the results being altered by the ref.

    If he can do so much with this shit, it bodes well for what will happen when he's able to mould his squad properly.

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    It was almost inevitable once we lost Chambo, mustafi and luiz will nevwr keep a clean sheet.

    Felt really sorry for Leno, but while i thought Chelski were a bunch of c**ts with all their cynical tackles you have to adm5 they built up huge pressure and we juat couldn't deal with it

    Arteta has to ger the club to give him a budget for better CBs, and he has to play Auba in the middle, Laca is shot at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    This was the issue for me. Good teams who sit back and defend still do something at the other end. We didn’t and because of that Chelsea could push further up without having to worry about being countered. It was a shocker from Leno but inviting pressure is never a good idea unless it’s methodical. For us it felt like we were hell bent on defending the 1-0 like our lives depended on it but gave no thought for what we could do to Chelsea to make them sweat.
    Ha, ha. We're not a good team. What bit don't you get? We're starting from the very beginning. We're the Jamaican bobsleigh team. Think of it that way. Thanks Wenger.
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    First of all the positives, again a much improved performance, better than anything we've seen this year against the top 4.

    Now the result was pretty predictable. I said something in the last game about Arteta getting the team to play at a high tempo and how that plays to the teams strength for now but I questioned how long he could keep it up. This game was a perfect example. Once we dropped the tempo and the players tired, their was only ever going to be one winner.

    And for those who love the idea having a rookie coach these are the kind of games that will keep exposing him. Everyone, including the commmentators were crying out that the team was getting tired and Chelsea's goals were comming, yet he left the substitutions late and they were all ineffective by that time.

    Conversely, Frank, the guy with the "small club" experience, used his subs perfectly as early as the 1st half to change tactics once he saw his team was struggling and it ended up working out for him even though his team was quite below par.

    I remember winning games under Emery in the first year, where it was clear we played poorly and thinking to myself our weaknesses will soon get exposed for the world to see- which happened after the initial run and rightly so we didn't recover.

    From what I've seen so far from Arteta, we're going to earn our points the hard way i.e. when we win, it'll be be because we outplayed the other team and we deserved all the points ( a bit like Citeh and Barca).

    Now we need to judge for ourselves how realistic this is in the scenario we are in and the bunch of players we are saddled with.

    In short, our climb up the table is going to be pretty slow and painful, and his inexperience is going to have a lot to do with this.
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    BTW I thought Luiz had a good game today, it really shocked me that he could raise his game (the winner was more of Mustafi's fault as DL had to keep his eye on 2 players while Mustafi just backed off like a wimp). Oh and the through passes from different players we've been seeing in the last 2 games have been pretty nice too.

    The thing I like about this Arteta experiment is players are improving, or getting back to the form we know they once had, which really is a good thing if it can be sustained with the bad results that await us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    First of all the positives, again a much improved performance, better than anything we've seen this year against the top 4.

    Now the result was pretty predictable. I said something in the last game about Arteta getting the team to play at a high tempo and how that plays to the teams strength for now but I questioned how long he could keep it up. This game was a perfect example. Once we dropped the tempo and the players tired, their was only ever going to be one winner.

    And for those who love the idea having a rookie coach these are the kind of games that will keep exposing him. Everyone, including the commmentators were crying out that the team was getting tired and Chelsea's goals were comming, yet he left the substitutions late and they were all ineffective by that time.

    Conversely, Frank, the guy with the "small club" experience, used his subs perfectly as early as the 1st half to change tactics once he saw his team was struggling and it ended up working out for him even though his team was quite below par.

    I remember winning games under Emery in the first year, where it was clear we played poorly and thinking to myself our weaknesses will soon get exposed for the world to see- which happened after the initial run and rightly so we didn't recover.

    From what I've seen so far from Arteta, we're going to earn our points the hard way i.e. when we win, it'll be be because we outplayed the other team and we deserved all the points ( a bit like Citeh and Barca).

    Now we need to judge for ourselves how realistic this is in the scenario we are in and the bunch of players we are saddled with.

    In short, our climb up the table is going to be pretty slow and painful, and his inexperience is going to have a lot to do with this.
    Great post.

    Typical rookie manager game, naively comes into the game wanting to us to play a certain way and thinking that if we do we'll win, that won't happen, you need to adapt to what's happening in the match and make changes, this reminds me of what Wenger wanted to do, play your game and not worry about the opposition which is a worry.

    I still stand by the fact we should have got someone experienced given our situation, we need results, not 35-45 minutes of decent performances.

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