Winter Transfer Ignorance and Dart Throwing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Something like that.

I get the feeling this is less about the size of the fee and more about whether we can get it to show up under next season's expenses or not.

7mill though. How the hell can that have any serious bearing on a club the size of Arsenal? Just pay it. Get the player in. Sell Mustafi, or let him go on a free. £7mill will be the least of our worries if we have to go with Mustafi for the remainder of the season.

[Özim]

Arteta thinks he can turn around Mustafi's career. Oh dear.

Arsenal defender Shkodran Mustafi, 27, was linked with leaving the London side in the summer but Gunners boss Mikel Arteta believes he can turn around the German international's career at the club."]http://Arsenal defender Shkodran Mustafi, 27, was linked with leaving the London side in the summer but Gunners boss Mikel Arteta believes he can turn around the German international's career at the club.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rsenal-career/

Maybe this is why we don't want to pay what's needed for the South American. Anyone else sick of this nonsense, having to put up with mediocre players and having to hear your manager telling you they can make it, despite 4-5 years of being awful? Didn't we have the same thing with Wenger?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Fuck me.

I thought this transfer was nailed on.

Seems we cant even afford £7m now

What the actual fuck is happening to all the money at this club!?!

[I am invisible]

Fuck me.

I thought this transfer was nailed on.

Seems we cant even afford £7m now

What the actual fuck is happening to all the money at this club!?!

There's no mystery here - we've got a squad of players on CL wages, and we've now gone 3 years without CL income (and the increased commercials that go with the prestige of that competition). Next year will be year 4.

I think we had enough in the bank to cover the shortfall for the first couple of years, but we're now into loss-making territory so some harsh decisions are going to need to be made.

On the plus side, some harsh decisions are going to need to be made.

[dazthegooner]

So it looks like we wanted the player even got him to come over for a medical only then discover that we can't afford it (or we did but think Flamengo would budge on the fee) how arrogant are the board? (stupid question) so cannot see us getting anyone this window unless we get rid of a few players and going by what Arteta has said the one's we need to get rid of he wants to work on hoping he will improve

[Globalgunner]

Now that Mustafi is injured in his leg. (Brain is permanently on the blink anyway). Can someone put in a call to Brazil and tell them we have found some Euros under the rafters. Or do we have to start a Paypal Go-fund me account. Im willing to put in a tenner. Im sure NQ will be good for at least 50.?

[Özim]

Deal has collapsed apparently.

https://twitter.com/ZRAFC/status/1221818374243651584

[Niall_Quinn]

Arteta thinks he can turn around Mustafi's career. Oh dear.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rsenal-career/

Maybe this is why we don't want to pay what's needed for the South American. Anyone else sick of this nonsense, having to put up with mediocre players and having to hear your manager telling you they can make it, despite 4-5 years of being awful? Didn't we have the same thing with Wenger?

This would be a miracle too far.

I suspect this is code for: "Nobody will touch him with a bargepole!"

[I am invisible]

Arteta thinks he can turn around Mustafi's career. Oh dear.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rsenal-career/

Maybe this is why we don't want to pay what's needed for the South American...

Could be the other way around - Flamengo aren't interested in a 'loan now, buy later' deal, so we're now having to big up Mustafi in case that's what we're left with?

Arteta thinks he can turn around Mustafi's career. Oh dear.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rsenal-career/
...Anyone else sick of this nonsense, having to put up with mediocre players and having to hear your manager telling you they can make it, despite 4-5 years of being awful? Didn't we have the same thing with Wenger?

Yes. Honestly, the next time we redesign the logo we should consider going with a guy in coach's outfit polishing a turd - it wouldn't be too far from the truth.

Slightly different with Wenger though, as he was a manager and had total power over recruitment - Arteta and Emery have been hired as coaches, and their job is to get the most out of the players they have. They can, of course, ask for better, but that will be done in private - in public, you keep the players you have confident and motivated and fighting for you (right up until the very moment before you hand them their p45).

[I am invisible]

7mill though. How the hell can that have any serious bearing on a club the size of Arsenal? Just pay it. Get the player in. Sell Mustafi, or let him go on a free. £7mill will be the least of our worries if we have to go with Mustafi for the remainder of the season.

All true, and of course it won't have any bearing on us whatsoever. But it doesn't matter - if the PL rules say that clubs can only add X amount to their annual expenses each season relative to their commercial income, and if we've already maxed out our limit for this year, then our hands might be tied? (*That's just a guess, but it would explain why we're trying to structure any and every potential deal as an initial loan with an option to buy later / in the next accounting period.)

Would love to sell Mustafi, but that's easier said than done, as we found out last summer. I'm not even sure we can give him away at this point? If he's decided to sit on his fat Arsenal contract and would rather rot than go elsewhere for less money but more games then there's not really much we can do about it. Feels short-sighted to me, but he's legally well within his rights to do it...