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    Ozil and "two other players"? I smell the stench of the mainstream media at work.

    Where did they get this information? It can only have come from within the club. In which case, there's a much bigger rat than Ozil at large. One that needs to be identified and sacked on the spot. As I already said, now that the clubs have stopped trying to dump staff in the shit, I don't see what the purpose of players taking wage cuts is. They aren't obliged to. Are other people, outside football, who haven't lost their jobs taking wage cuts? You know me and what I think of footballers and their crazy money, but what's the argument for them taking pay cuts? I don't have any sympathy for them, but I have even less sympathy for the clubs that have been fleecing the fans for years and now say they don't have enough stashed away to ride out a few months without revenue? What about the shareholders at Arsenal? Isn't it their role to take the losses as well as all those gains? Has Kroenke done anything to support the club? Beyond talk?

    Before everyone jumps on Ozil and the "two other players", let's get the whole story. Sounds fishy as hell to me. The media has been trying to destroy Ozil from day one, because he joined the wrong club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Are other people, outside football, who haven't lost their jobs taking wage cuts?
    If they've been furloughed they have, yes. And a bigger pay cut than the one Ozil is being asked to take.
    Why shouldn't they be furloughed? I wouldn't have a problem with clubs furloughing staff so long as it applied to the players.
    Making the poor sod on the turnstile take a cut while the players keep getting trucks of money delivered to their houses each week is hugely taking the piss.
    Neither of them are doing their jobs right now. It's not their fault but if you're going to furlough, furlough both.

    He's earning £350,000 a week. A WEEK!
    The amounts these guys earn take the piss at the best of times. Right now while so many people are losing their jobs and struggling to pay the bills it takes the piss if any of them refuse to take a bit of a hit - especially when it isn't really a hit at all. It will make zero difference to him.
    Even if it's just about perception, take the sodding cut, ffs! It's less of a cut than people who are furloughed are being asked to take.

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    Has Ozil refused the cut because he wants to review the impact on his own situation? Or has he demanded to see Arsenal's financial position before taking a cut? The story seems to differ depending on the source. If the latter, that seems reasonable to me.

    Also has Piers Morgan taken a pay cut? I genuinely don't know. But if he hasn't then he urgently needs to shoot himself in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Are other people, outside football, who haven't lost their jobs taking wage cuts?
    Some have, yes.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Is it reasonable, though?
    I mean, from a purely logical point of view I guess if your employer can keep paying you then why shouldn't they?
    But when there are so many people out there struggling to pay the bills right now and this cut - which is less than what people who are Furloughed are being asked to take - isn't going to make a scrap of different to him, just do it FFS!
    'Cos frankly he looks like a dick saying no, even if there is logic in him doing so.

    (In other news, I've been a bit worried recently, I've seen Piers Morgan talking sense a couple of times )

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    Some have, yes.
    Yep. Mate of mine has taken a 15% pay cut till the end of the year.

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    Supposedly TWENTY SEVEN Arsenal players resisted a pay cut and instead wanted a deferral, Ozil being ONE of them. And there are three remaining who are still negotiating. NOBODY has refused to take a pay cut. So shits like Piers Morgan, Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher need to shut their pie holes and wait to see how this plays out, rather than dive on one player when most of the squad didn't want to accept cuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Supposedly TWENTY SEVEN Arsenal players resisted a pay cut and instead wanted a deferral, Ozil being ONE of them. And there are three remaining who are still negotiating. NOBODY has refused to take a pay cut. So shits like Piers Morgan, Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher need to shut their pie holes and wait to see how this plays out, rather than dive on one player when most of the squad didn't want to accept cuts.
    That's fair, but if true then it just means they can all fuck off if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Is it reasonable, though?
    I mean, from a purely logical point of view I guess if your employer can keep paying you then why shouldn't they?
    But when there are so many people out there struggling to pay the bills right now and this cut - which is less than what people who are Furloughed are being asked to take - isn't going to make a scrap of different to him, just do it FFS!
    'Cos frankly he looks like a dick saying no, even if there is logic in him doing so.

    (In other news, I've been a bit worried recently, I've seen Piers Morgan talking sense a couple of times )
    So people can buy food and put it in a food bank, or donate to a charity. Why leave the money with the bosses, unless the company really needs to make cuts to survive? In which case the company can approach the staff and make the case. Which is what has been happening at Arsenal.

    Ozil earns 350K a week? That's a piss in a bucket in this age of wealth inequity. Let's work down from the top of the list until we get to Ozil. Bill Gates, richest man in the world. Has he taken a pay cut? I hear the mega banksters have all suspended their bonuses for this year. But did they take a pay cut. CEO of Shell. Tim Cook. Suckerberg. How about Bezos? Between them these guys have enough money to pay the world's wages for the rest of the year. Why aren't outraged wankers like Piers Morgan hassling them?

    Ozil probably gives more to charity that ALL of these bastards combined. REAL charity, not strategic investments posing as charity, or tax avoidance vehicles.

    This is a joke. If we're going to single out one guy then let's go for them all. We can start at ITV where that wanker Morgan works. They have asked us to pay their staff's wages. What does Morgan think about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    That's fair, but if true then it just means they can all fuck off if you ask me.
    Well yeah, there's that. None of them should be getting wheelbarrows of cash for what they do. But it's us that fills the barrow and chucks it at them. Walk up to any kid in the street and bung a suitcase of cash at him. He's not going to give it back.

    If Morgan is so outraged then he can stop watching football and contributing to such an outrageous industry, can't he? But won't he be the first to hit Twatter when the first ball is kicked again? And won't Neville and Carragher be there too, talking about "the best league in the world"?

    Hell, we're about to see Saudi human rights abusers welcomed to the party with open arms. Amnesty International is begging the PL to investigate before allowing these scumbags into the "beautiful" game. Football's a dirty, dirty business, fawned over by the maggoty media. But Ozil is the bad guy.
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