u r a lost cause LOLZOriginally Posted by Letters
Letters will
Letters
Just thought I'd save someone some time there.
u r a lost cause LOLZLetters will
Letters
Just thought I'd save someone some time there.
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Now that's funny. Why do you say he'd be going for trophies if he went abroad? If we'd had shipped him to PSG as intended, wouldn't that prove more so that he was looking for a pay rise more than anything else?
Wenger admitted he wanted to sell him abroad to PSG but they weren’t interested and then his buddy Fergie twisted his arm to make the deal happen. It’s a shady deal because before RVP even said anything to the press, PHW was talking about not being able to match the wages Man City could offer him. Had we even offered him a contract at that point and discussed wages? Let’s not forget Wenger’s comments way before the summer about offering a massive contract to player passing his prime at 30.
It sounded like we were trying to entice City to make a bid because we’ve pimped our players out to them before and we can use the old ‘mercenary’ player argument. When that didn’t work, we were hoping PSG would stump up the cash because Juve certainly weren’t. But in comes Utd!
Back to the contract discussions. If this was another dispute about pay, why in the world couldn’t we offer him a better deal? We must have known we had the new sponsorship deals on the table. We splashed good money on Ozil the following season. So if he wanted to double his wages, why couldn’t we? Or at least tell him to hold tight for a season and we’d come back to him with a solid offer knowing that we have these new sponsorship deals on the table. I mean, shit, the following season Gazidis was talking that talk about us being able to afford a player like Rooney and ‘do things that will excite you.’
Koscielny is awlsome.
Kompany is better.
lol
A fact we conveniently forget.....or we make out like the club were forced. You can fashion a reasonable argument for why it made business sense, but nobody should have ever pretended as if we had absolutely no say in the matter. I expected more from RvP but moreover I expected more from Arsene Wenger and the club and they let us down. We should expect more from the club and manager than we do from the players.
I don't think RvP's decision was just about money though and I would think it naive to believe so. Like you often point out yourself, it doesn't always have to be so black and white. He knew very well he would improve his wages as well his chances of silverware. Removing the emotion out of it then makes the decision a formality.
Last edited by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice; 18-03-2015 at 06:37 PM.
But if he wanted to be part of a successful team & win trophies where do you expect him to go - Stoke! - Utd, Chelsea or City were the only options in England for him if he wanted to win things, so either way he would have joined a rival. Ofcourse we could have sold him abroad but apparently nobody wanted him for the money Utd would pay inc his salary. He won the Premier league the following year & had a great season for them. You can call him want you want but whilst we were arguing about another poxy 4th place finish & Wengers crap buys, he was parading the P.L. trophy around Manchester.
Well that's where i hold us equally responsible, if we couldn't get the money we wanted from him abroad we should have kept him another year.....Walcott was our top league goal scorer in 2012/2013 season (and we still finished fourth)....it's just possible with city and chelsea all over the place and United winning the title off the back of the rapist's goals that we could have put in a credible title challenge that season.
Van Persie is a cunt because he clearly had his agent in talks with both Manchester clubs before telling us he wasn't going to sign an extension, you equally can argue it any way you want to but if as a player you join another club in England don't expect to be appreciated by the club you leave behind. I am enjoying United's decline far more because he is on their books.
Emotional intelligence, nil points
Society is now one polished horde
Formed by two mighty tribes, the bores and the bored.
"After all, it was the Gunners’ goalkeeper who started the move that culminated in Thomas’ crowning glory. It was Lukic who, in injury time, decided to throw the ball out to Lee Dixon rather than lump it long..."
Yes, eat ALL of our shirts!
NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.
Wenger saying in his press conf that he wants the away goal removed from the CL.
How about defending properly.
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