Can't or wont? I.E. They have simply given up playing for Arteta?Originally Posted by Letters
I think the latter, they have downed tools...nothing Arteta says is getting through to them. Arteta's position is now untenable for me, he must go first and I think Edu should go with him.
Aye - I think that they have lost faith in his methods. The surprising thing is how quicklythis has happened, and I think that it speaks to a deeper malaise at Arsenal than simply having a rookie manager. This is the one area where I have some sympathy for Arteta. What he did see was the problems with the prevailing attitudes amongst our players - who are not prepared to roll up their sleeves and fight when the going is hard. This has dogged us for years, and can be traced back to Wenger's mollycoddling. The only way to root out this mental issue is to start with young/new players. I strongly suspect that Arteta's perseverence with Xhaka stems from the fact that he appears to the manager to have the right attitude when others do not. It's just a shame that he is the wek link playing wise.
Arteta's main problem with trying to address the mental fraility at our club is that having identified the problem, he then persists with old has-beens like Luis and Willian - who have form in agitating against managers at Chelsea, and fails properly to bring in his youngsters who have shown some fight. Poor management.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
three stories i've seen this morning showing what a mess Arteta is making:
- Torreira doesn't want to come back from loan
- Ozil wants to honour his contract and doesn't want to be paid off - his agent says "Mesut was the player who reached 50 Premier League assists, faster than anyone else, in 141 appearances and Arsenal need exactly this kind of creativity. They say he was sidelined for 'football reasons' but that's not something I can comment on. I think the fans want him back on the pitch and at the last match they also chanted his name."
- Saliba is probably going out on loan in January
I think we need to be a bit cautious before blaming Arteta for everything - albeit that he is failing pretty badly. Torreira was not pulling up any trees when he last played and the Athletico experiment hasn't worked. The stories I am seeing is that he may come back to Arsenal early. Not the player's decision anyway.
Ozil has been picked over ad nauseam. As I posted elsewhere, he and his agent are doing a good PR job, but (1) sucessive managers have had issue with him and this can't be coincidence, and (2) you have to wonder about a player who has no need for money staying at a club where he is not playing. What kind of football ambition is that?
Saliba is a head-scratcher for sure but his position is not one where we are lacking personnel.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
Someone's posted comments by Vinai and Edu from a fan forum the club held last night - basically lots of stuff about difficulties, but the club is holding it together and having faith in Mikel - oh and none of the players are unhappy
https://twitter.com/Peterhoest/statu...49269173243912
Excellent! This unity and happiness should translate onto the pitch then. Looking forward to the new reality tonight.
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Even if we were to win the next 3 games (don't laugh) though concede too may goals in the process Arteta would probably bring Zhaka back anyway.
Someone's posted comments by Vinai and Edu from a fan forum the club held last night - basically lots of stuff about difficulties, but the club is holding it together and having faith in Mikel - oh and none of the players are unhappy
https://twitter.com/Peterhoest/statu...49269173243912
I think this is the most revealing comment:
Edu: It’s quite clear what we need. (about transfers)
We need a player with creativity in the middle, we don’t have that in the squad right now.
It’s complete bullshit. I have no issue if they want to sell Ozil but dont come out and say we dont have any creative players when there is one right there. Plus Pepe, Smith-Rowe etc.
its comments like that that just cause fans not to trust anyone at the club
Arteta has come out to support Xhaka, it's an absolute joke considering how this guy criticised Pepe, it's double standards again as it was with Willian, the sooner this chump is sacked the better, he's an absolute joke of a manager!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55316020
But Arteta says the 28-year-old warrants his support. "He has had tough times here and he's not the only one, there's a lot of players that have had rocky moments," he said.
"But what I can say about Granit is that his professionalism and his commitment with the club and with his team-mates is maximal.
"He knows - and we all know - that he had a moment where he's lost it and I know the reason why. But what I cannot do is just throw everything that he has done away because he's made a mistake.
"We all make mistakes and I am here as well to protect the players when I see that they deserve that.
"And, for sure, Granit is one of them - for the way that he approaches every training session, for the way he wants to do things in the right way all the time and for the professional that he is."
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