Summer '21 transfer lunacy and overpayment

[I am invisible]

The Turkish club president that we transferred Ozil too claimed that he hasnt cost them a penny in wages since he arrived, so we havent even got that load off our wage bill either. We owed Ozil plenty give that we refused him a testimonial. We are probably paying for his leg and armpit waxing till today. This club is run by morons. The stupidity amd sleaze didnt end when dodgy Raul left

Not much the current people could do about Özil - we were tucked up by the deal that Ivan handed him and unfortunately contract law was well and truly on his side (and he knew it).

Where the current management team will have major questions to answer is if they fail to learn anything from handing out that kind of deal. Signing Willian was an ominous start (although I think that might also have happened under Raul… just?), but I’ll be encouraged if we move him on at the first chance we get. That transfer has turned out to be a massive mistake, but at least it would show that they’re prepared to acknowledge it and deal with it, which is more than we’ve had for years…

[dazthegooner]

Think the biggest problem getting rid of Willian isn't a transfer fee (Don't think we're asking for one) but with his massive wages he isn't looking to take a pay cut and clubs are not prepared to pay it.

[Mac76]

Not much the current people could do about Özil - we were tucked up by the deal that Ivan handed him and unfortunately contract law was well and truly on his side (and he knew it).

Where the current management team will have major questions to answer is if they fail to learn anything from handing out that kind of deal. Signing Willian was an ominous start (although I think that might also have happened under Raul… just?), but I’ll be encouraged if we move him on at the first chance we get. That transfer has turned out to be a massive mistake, but at least it would show that they’re prepared to acknowledge it and deal with it, which is more than we’ve had for years…

Willian was post-Raul, it was all Edu and Arteta's doing - for me it's much worse than the Ozil deal, at least the guy could play but small-dicked managers like Emery and Arteta didn't like his lack of desire to run around enough traffic cones.

Willian was a blatantly stupid signing on far too high a wage and for far too long a period, of a player who's past it

And now we're paying for it big-time

I just hope we can offload Xhaka given his Euros performances, plus some others, hopefully things will be moving now the Euros is over for many players

[dazthegooner]

Well according to reports Villa are preparing a £32.5m bid for Smith-Rowe and we may interested https://tbrfootball.com/report-aston...le-smith-rowe/ Where would we get a player of the same age with as much potential that's also English? it wouldn't make any sense...

[Mac76]

Well according to reports Villa are preparing a £32.5m bid for Smith-Rowe and we may interested https://tbrfootball.com/report-aston...le-smith-rowe/ Where would we get a player of the same age with as much potential that's also English? it wouldn't make any sense...

it will be a clear sign we have no ambition if we sell a player of his quality

[rodders]

What on earth has this club come to? Reports that Villa actually believe that Smith-Rowe think that he has a better future with Villa than with Arsenal.

[Mac76]

What on earth has this club come to? Reports that Villa actually believe that Smith-Rowe think that he has a better future with Villa than with Arsenal.

probably right - Arteta will probably end up still having to find a place for Willian

[I am invisible]

Willian was post-Raul, it was all Edu and Arteta's doing - for me it's much worse than the Ozil deal, at least the guy could play but small-dicked managers like Emery and Arteta didn't like his lack of desire to run around enough traffic cones.

Willian was a blatantly stupid signing on far too high a wage and for far too long a period, of a player who's past it

And now we're paying for it big-time

I just hope we can offload Xhaka given his Euros performances, plus some others, hopefully things will be moving now the Euros is over for many players

Willian was announced on 14 Aug and Raul left (/ was pushed) the next day, so all of the talks and offers would have happened under his rule. I don’t doubt that Arteta and Edu had a big hand in identifying him as a target, and that’s obviously turned out to be a terrible call, but as you say it’s the deal that we gave him that was the real disaster - 3 years on that kind of money for a guy in his 30s was criminal!

Arteta wouldn’t have had any say in that side of it - he was still just a head coach at that point (and even now I don’t think it’s his responsibility). Edu? Maybe, although it’s unclear how much leash he really had under Raul - not sure he was ever meant to be anything more than a face to distract from what was really happening. Given what we now know, this whole thing wreaks of another one of Raul’s shady “contacts” deals. Could have even been the proverbial straw that ended him?

Don’t get me started on Özil - it’s too close to the end of the weekend!

[I am invisible]

Think the biggest problem getting rid of Willian isn't a transfer fee (Don't think we're asking for one) but with his massive wages he isn't looking to take a pay cut and clubs are not prepared to pay it.

Yeah, I don’t expect this one will happen quickly - not unless, by some miracle, some club comes out of nowhere and offers us a fee and Willian the wages he wants. Otherwise I expect this will go to the final day, as everyone holds out for whatever they can get.

If anyone blinks first, though, it will probably have to be us - we need that valuable non-HG squad place back to get on with our business, so our need is most urgent. Another waste of space we’ll probably end up subsidising, ffs.

[Bumble]

Yeah, I don’t expect this one will happen quickly - not unless, by some miracle, some club comes out of nowhere and offers us a fee and Willian the wages he wants. Otherwise I expect this will go to the final day, as everyone holds out for whatever they can get.

If anyone blinks first, though, it will probably have to be us - we need that valuable non-HG squad place back to get on with our business, so our need is most urgent. Another waste of space we’ll probably end up subsidising, ffs.

it probably be a case of us covering part of his wages at his new club to get him off our books which i would still take. he was a good player at chelsea i thought. he is rubbish with us.