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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    He’s the only midfielder who does that, but a big focus of all our recent recruitment has been putting together a group of defenders (and a GK) who can all do it too. Whoever the ball falls to in that defensive 6 now, we move it to the forwards as quickly and directly as possible - it falls to Partey, it goes straight to the forwards… it falls to White or Zinchenko, it goes straight to the forwards… it falls to Saliba or Gabriel, it goes straight to the forwards… it falls to Ramsdale, it goes straight to the forwards. Sometimes we’ll still have to go the long way round, but a lot of the time we’ll just bypass midfield completely.

    Elneny as Partey-cover was never going to be exciting, but I could have lived with it if he hadn’t picked up this freak injury - I don’t think sticking with him was negligent or a gross oversight. He can’t do what Partey does, but we didn’t really need him to (and tbh I think he would have got in trouble if he’d tried) - all he really had to do was keep it simple, hold his position and make one extra pass to hand it off to one of those other defensive quarterbacks, or maybe make a shorter pass to one of our 8s who might have had to drop s little deeper. It would have slowed us down a little when it fell to him, but there’s other ways we could have built attacks.

    Agree about the wide player (or at least I did before we lost Elneny - it’s more 50/50 on priority for me now). Aside from adding competition and cover (and hopefully goals) to our current wide options, my main reason for wanting that player is it frees up Martinelli to cover Jesus - the striker market looks dead this summer and I can’t see a more natural, like-for-like replacement that’s available anywhere in terms of the energy and tenacity he brings to the front line. We lose that energy and we really are a different team again.
    I think you're massively overstating the ability of anyone other than Partey to do it. They're all fuckin shit in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandela8 View Post
    Again, no issue improving the quality of CM but anyone who thinks it's in more need of an upgrade than the wide positions is simply fuckin mental.

    And Lokonga has played nearly 100 games in his career and is capped for Belgium. He's not unproven, at all. He's unplayed by Arteta. That's entirely different to untested, man.
    I know because you’re a massive pussy you avoid directly replying to me but what the fuck are you on about.

    Lokonga played over 100 games (two thirds for Anderlecht) and capped for Belgium…he has won one cap for Belgium. Leandro Trossard has 16 would you play him for Arsenal?

    I agree that the main issue is Arteta not playing him but regardless of the reason that makes him untested at the highest level.

    Your obsession with Saka aside, the winger was always a be nice to have. And again if you have issue with us not signing one you should have asked Arteta why he spunked thirty million up the wall on Vieira

    Unless you have wing backs like Liverpool have where you can bypass your midfield, central midfield is the most important area on the pitch. You dictate the game from central midfield and we haven’t dictated the midfield since Fabregas left 11 years ago.
    Now Partey has excellent skills but you compare him to our best midfield pairing (Gilberto and Vieira) he is more Gilberto than Vieira. And our new Vieira couldn’t even begin to do for us what his namesake did.

    Given Wenger used to from time to time lump that useless cunt Ramsey on the right I’m not really sold on the absolute necessity of a winger now. If anything from an attacking sense we could do with a tall physical striker to mix it up as Eddie N and Jesus are too similar.
    Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 31-08-2022 at 01:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I know because you’re a massive pussy you avoid directly replying to me but what the fuck are you on about.

    Lokonga played over 100 games (two thirds for Anderlecht) and capped for Belgium…he has won one cap for Belgium. Leandro Trossard has 16 would you play for Arsenal?

    I agree that the main issue is Arteta not playing him but regardless of the reason that makes him untested at the highest level.

    Your obsession with Saka aside, the winger was always a be nice to have. And again if you have issue with us not signing one you should have asked Arteta why he spunked thirty million up the wall on Vieira

    Unless you have wing backs like Liverpool have where you can bypass your midfield, central midfield is the most important area on the pitch. You dictate the game from central midfield and we haven’t dictated the midfield since Fabregas left 11 years ago.
    Now Partey has excellent skills but you compare him to our best midfield pairing (Gilberto and Vieira) he is more Gilberto than Vieira. And our new Vieira couldn’t even begin to do for us what his namesake did.

    Given Wenger used to from time to time lump that useless cunt Ramsey on the right I’m not really sold on the absolute necessity of a winger now. If anything from an attacking sense we could do with a tall physical striker to mix it up as Eddie N and Jesus are too similar.

    Especially the bit about the money wasted on the injured Vieria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandela8 View Post
    Again, no issue improving the quality of CM but anyone who thinks it's in more need of an upgrade than the wide positions is simply fuckin mental.

    And Lokonga has played nearly 100 games in his career and is capped for Belgium. He's not unproven, at all. He's unplayed by Arteta. That's entirely different to untested, man.
    Im simply fuckin mental then. Out wide at the very least we have ESR who is a very capable 3rd choice wide player, his numbers and performances last season back that up. At a push, Jesus can play there as can Viera.

    Lokonga has had plenty of game time for us, he is a passive player, hides from responsibility and plays it safe. He's basically a developing version of Elneny.

    Central Midfield is basically just Partey and Xhaka and at a push Elneny. Who else do we have in this position who can contribute now? We are aiming to finish above Spurs, Chelsea and United right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Im simply fuckin mental then.
    Glad we've been able to conclude this amicably, mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandela8 View Post
    Glad we've been able to conclude this amicably, mate.
    Ah we have an "Internet" hard man.

    Schools are back tomorrow aren't they?
    Last edited by selassie; 31-08-2022 at 01:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Ah we have an "Internet" hard man.

    Schools are back tomorrow aren't they?
    Yeah but he’s no pupil, he likes to stand by the gates with his flies unzipped

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Ah we have an "Internet" hard man.

    Schools are back tomorrow aren't they?
    Not trying to be hard, man. Although I am hard as utter fuck, tbf.

    We're just going round in circles. You think a CM is a priority because of a lack of quality. I agree...but don't think it's as important as a wide player as there's a lack of quality AND a lack of numbers there.

    We can just continue saying the same things if you want though.

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    I think we should sign 4 more CB's as we are looking a but thin in that area now based on past personnel numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandela8 View Post
    We can just continue saying the same things if you want though.
    Please do. That's pretty much kept GW going over the last 10 years.

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