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Thread: Winter Transfer Missed Opportunities and Regrets

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    He's only 28. Sure he's older than some in the squad but it's the prime age for a footballer. It's not some Willian style punt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    To think I re-edited the post like 7 times so it wouldn't seem "touchy"....


    Anyway, at this juncture I'll probably have to say fair enough mate, if you want to trust in the "process" (whatever that means) and sing kumbaya like everything is fine, it's your prerogative. My sincere hope is that you are proved right.

    Till then, I am going continue bellowing about any weakness I spot till we fix it. Just the kind of guy I am..... BTW miss when you use to drop critical posts like this, but hey...





    That was in January, 13/14 season. We were one point off the cusp. We eventually finished 4th, 7 points behind Citeh. Maybe if AW had taken your advice then, maybe he'd still have a job. Who knows ...
    Thing is though - you seem to be dealing in absolutes. Over-exaggerating by referring to 'singing Kumbaya' because I point out that the Club has earned a little slack re criticism of its transfer business missses my point.

    This is not that there is nothing to improve on. As you have pointed out I agree that we need some back ups in a thinnish squad. I have acknowledged also that over the past few seasons, our return on outgoing players has been lamentable. But I feel that its unfair to criticise our net transfer business while also suggesting that we bungled a deal because we didn't simply accept a selling club's inflated valuation at the oustet. If we are learning some lessons and are a little cautious that's OK with me.

    The last line of my 13/14 post that you pasted says 'What I simply can't understand is why we don't seem to be taking the obvious steps that are in the club's power to make silverware more likely. And that has nothing to do with either improvement or current league position' The difference now is (1) its too soon to reach this conclusion in the January transfer window, (2) the whole reason we are where we are in the face of clubs with far greater resouces than those available to us is the team-building and fostering of spirit and togetherness we have accomplished, and changing our strategy as a club to build for sustained success - and I understand that there are therefore some red lines when it comes to transfers. Most importantly, unlike the later Wenger period - we are clearly building towards competing for the league rather than simply settling for top four in the medium term. So while I'm disappointed re Mudryk, I don't feel as frustrated with our current situation as I did then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Yeah that's how I see it MO. He is a decent player, he is kind of at the wrong age to be called a long term investment hence why I'm not completely keen on him, but he will certainly add quality depth over the next few seasons and we are desperate for quality depth now.

    I can definitely get on board with this signing, I suspect we may go big for another attacking player in the summer assuming CL is confirmed which it should be.

    I agree regarding our recruitment, it has been spot on. We are also a very well drilled machine now so obviously have a clear plan for Trossard.
    I'd agree with that. And as I've said, I have more confidence these days that the club knows what it is doing.
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    Trossard is not too old.

    Both Partey and Xhaka are both older.

    His price yesterday was £10 million, its now £15 million, £20 million to the Spuds and £30 million to Arsenal.

    Get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dostoy View Post
    Trossard is not too old.

    Both Partey and Xhaka are both older.

    His price yesterday was £10 million, its now £15 million, £20 million to the Spuds and £30 million to Arsenal.

    Get him.
    Xhaka has been at the club almost seven years, Partey two and a half

    The idea of adding anyone to the wage bill pushing 30 now is ridiculous and smacks of desperation. Especially for a winger most of whom will have peaked by Trossard’s age.

    A big no thank you from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Xhaka has been at the club almost seven years, Partey two and a half

    The idea of adding anyone to the wage bill pushing 30 now is ridiculous and smacks of desperation. Especially for a winger most of whom will have peaked by Trossard’s age.

    A big no thank you from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Xhaka has been at the club almost seven years
    ...for six of which he was shite and now just about passes muster, but is still the offiical weak link

    none of which disproves your point but again if it's the right deal and if Trossard's only with us for two-three years what's the problem? - can you not see that with enough players in the squad we could WIN THE LEAGUE this season?

    hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    ...for six of which he was shite and now just about passes muster, but is still the offiical weak link

    none of which disproves your point but again if it's the right deal and if Trossard's only with us for two-three years what's the problem? - can you not see that with enough players in the squad we could WIN THE LEAGUE this season?

    hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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    Let's face it, technically he's at the level of most of our squad.

    My main concern is that Arteta is able to live with his attitude and motivate him.... we don't need anymore Guendozi, Torrerria or Auba soap operas.... especially not now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Let's face it, technically he's at the level of most of our squad.

    My main concern is that Arteta is able to live with his attitude and motivate him.... we don't need anymore Guendozi, Torrerria or Auba soap operas.... especially not now.
    I seriously doubt Arteta would have okay'd the move if he thought that would be an issue.
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