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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don’t think we would have gone back if we didn’t feel something could happen. Obviously Brighton hold all the cards here but I think his head is turned. I read that his salary is a pittance by PL standards too.

    It’s unlikely at this stage but I do believe money talks and if Brighton feel like he won’t be the same player for the remainder of the season they will need to consider selling. That or give him a new contract which would end our interest immediately.
    Money does of course talk, but you have to ask yourself if they reject 70 million now are they going to accept 80 or even 90 million and my feeling is no

    Going back in again suggests we believe the player wants to come to us and I think that’s not in doubt.

    Yes there’s an offer at which Brighton would sell to us, but let’s just say we are no where near it. I’m talking double what we actually offered to begin with originally at a minimum

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Money does of course talk, but you have to ask yourself if they reject 70 million now are they going to accept 80 or even 90 million and my feeling is no

    Going back in again suggests we believe the player wants to come to us and I think that’s not in doubt.

    Yes there’s an offer at which Brighton would sell to us, but let’s just say we are no where near it. I’m talking double what we actually offered to begin with originally at a minimum
    They will sell at £80m and if they don't, no one will offer more than £80m this summer, I guarantee this.

    Personally, unless their is info the club is privy to that is not in the public domain, I would go for another option (first course of action) and at worst, only bid £75m as a last desperate resort.

    But I agree with everyone, all signings we go for from now on will be overpriced as we have clearly shown everyone we have a large warchest and are clearly confused on how to use it.

    With the way things are going I'd expect West Ham to quote us £140m for Rice in the summer.

    What great transfer Tsars we have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don’t think we would have gone back if we didn’t feel something could happen. Obviously Brighton hold all the cards here but I think his head is turned. I read that his salary is a pittance by PL standards too.

    It’s unlikely at this stage but I do believe money talks and if Brighton feel like he won’t be the same player for the remainder of the season they will need to consider selling. That or give him a new contract which would end our interest immediately.
    I think this too, but I also think we don't cover ourselves in glory with our add 5mill on top type bids when going back.

    Brighton tend to always say the player is not for sale until they receive a suitable offer in their eyes, they did it with Ben White, did it with Cucurella in the summer when dealing with Man City and then eventually Chelsea where he went. They kind of did it with Trossard too...though to a lesser extent.

    The Caicedo situation is really delicate for all parties involved, he clearly wants the move, they would prefer not to lose him now, we obviously have a ceiling limit on what we will offer for him. It is anyone's guess what happens next. I don't think this saga is totally over yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    They will sell at £80m and if they don't, no one will offer more than £80m this summer, I guarantee this.

    Personally, unless their is info the club is privy to that is not in the public domain, I would go for another option (first course of action) and at worst, only bid £75m as a last desperate resort.

    But I agree with everyone, all signings we go for from now on will be overpriced as we have clearly shown everyone we have a large warchest and are clearly confused on how to use it.

    With the way things are going I'd expect West Ham to quote us £140m for Rice in the summer.

    What great transfer Tsars we have!
    If the argument is if we think they will sell for 80million should we bid 80 million? Yeah if we’ve already bid 70 million it’s kind of a no brainier.

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t bid 80 million, I just don’t believe they will sell at that amount. And you’re right they absolutely won’t get more than 80million (or probably as much as 80 million for him) in the summer. What they will have is a bigger likelihood of getting European football and therefore that inducement to offer anyone who they bring in to replace him in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    If the argument is if we think they will sell for 80million should we bid 80 million? Yeah if we’ve already bid 70 million it’s kind of a no brainier.

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t bid 80 million, I just don’t believe they will sell at that amount. And you’re right they absolutely won’t get more than 80million (or probably as much as 80 million for him) in the summer. What they will have is a bigger likelihood of getting European football and therefore that inducement to offer anyone who they bring in to replace him in the summer.
    The most annoying thing about this whole thing is we waited this late to show our hand for the one position everyone knew was our Achilles heel.

    Its really strange the way we do things but you can't accuse us of not being consistent though....I mean others rightly predicted this state of affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    The most annoying thing about this whole thing is we waited this late to show our hand for the one position everyone knew was our Achilles heel.

    Its really strange the way we do things but you can't accuse us of not being consistent though....I mean others rightly predicted this state of affairs.
    If I were to guess at their motivations I believe that they think Partey with Elneny as a backup is sufficient. You disagree, for what it’s worth I disagree. I think a week or so ago they had no intention of bringing in another midfielder and were keeping their powder dry for the summer.

    What appears to have forced their hand is that Elneny looks to be out for the remainder of the season (or at least this is what I’ve heard). The move for Douglas Luiz was made in the belief that both Partey and Elneny would be out for longer than they actually were.

    Again id have prioritised a central midfielder come what May (but then I’d have prioritised a striker as well) but this is me looking at what appears to be Arteta and the club’s way of looking at the situation

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    Marquinhos is off to Norwich on loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Marquinhos is off to Norwich on loan.
    So I saw, he does look a bit raw for the premier league and for a club with promotion aspirations I think it’s a good move to get minutes under his belt. Good luck to him

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    https://www.sportbible.com/football/arsenal-moises-caicedo-chelsea-brighton-transfer-news-902816-20230130

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