I'm finding that I agree with a lot of the arguments here - both for and against Jorginho!
On balance - an underwhelming signing, but if it seems desperate that's because we are! Obviously Elneny's injury took the club by surprise, and I guess at least we have responded to this. Caceido always a difficult call - but I can see why we tried as this was a more long term play.
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Originally Posted by IBK
Exactly this, Jorginho is definitely underwhelming because it’s felt that for a while that we want to build a good young side that can not only get us over the line this season but can compete on all fronts in the future.
Caicedo was the dry aged wagyu steak, Jorginho is a McDonalds value meal
But when we hunger for a midfielder to keep us ticking over to the end of the season…someone who is old but has decent stats is a more than acceptable sticking plaster
Yes there is also the anger at paying Chelsea for one of their players when yes we’ve had a mixed at best past with ex Chelsea players and they essentially stole Mudryk from us. But that’s an emotional evaluation
If Elneny hadn’t got injured we would have not signed anyone in midfield (a definite mistake in my view) but parsing it in those terms to get in cover who for me is easily better than Elneny…is not the worst days work ever.
That we won’t find out until the summer
Having champions league as a bare minimum which Liverpool or Chelsea are not exactly looking in the best place to get will give us hopefully better negotiating power. But ultimately it’s hard to tell if it’s Edu or the Kroenkes who are responsible for whether the deal fails. I’m of the opinion that Caicedo if we are still interested in him will probably be able to get him cheaper in the summer but either way we need to use that time to identify players of his calibre so we have multiple options.
Our midfield is all thirty or about to turn 30 and I think that absolutely needs to be addressed in the summer, and i absolutely believe it should already have happened so as to avoid the necessity for sticking plasters like Jorginho. But I live in the world of what is, not what should and it’s undeniable that judging this January transfer window on its own merits…we’ve strengthened the squad
Also you have to ask yourself the following, Chelsea who have been doing Brewsters millions on steroids went to 55million for Caicedo, when that was rejected they didn’t go in again. There are two possible reasons for this, a) they didn’t value him any higher or b) they knew Brighton weren’t going to sell
The club has confirmed Elneny has had surgery on his knee and no time scale given on his return.
Certainly explains the last minute dash.
yeah, kind of odd to make it public today though - "Hey everybody, we're really desperate to shore up our midfield..."
Guess they wanted to keep it under wraps until a replacement was bought. Would have made our negotiating position a lot weaker and it was already weak to begin with.
but we haven't yet have we - or is Jorginho definitely a done deal?Guess they wanted to keep it under wraps until a replacement was bought. Would have made our negotiating position a lot weaker and it was already weak to begin with.
By all accounts it is done.
Sure the club will announce it later.
Yes, few agreed and he’s had a medical. So it’s just about announcing
"few agreed" but we're still signing him?
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