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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    I don't agree, there is a difference between performances and ability, and Spurs and the other teams I mentioned have players with ability whose ceiling is far above our tin men like Odegaard, Xhaka and co.

    Again we are where we are because most of the team is playing beyond its ability and giving laudable performances, the same way every unbiased pundit have kept insisting the others are playing below their ability which is why they have faltered....anyway our situation is not sustainable in such a demanding league and can only get us so far.

    To think we're currently proving idiots like Neville and Keane right :smh:
    Odegaard and Xhaka both walk into Spurs first XI IMO. Spurs midfield consists of the likes of Bentancur (good player) Pepe Sarr (average), Hojberg (average), Bissouma (average) and Oliver Skipp (clogger). They don't even play with an attacking midfielder / creative midfielder, their Midfield is a complete mess.
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    Yeah don’t agree with that re: Spurs

    Our goalkeeper is better than Lloris, our defence is better than theirs, our central midfield is poor (Partey aside) but so is theirs, I think Saka is better than Kulusevski, Martinelli better than Richarlison. Son and Kane are the only two players that make them on a similar level to us…clearly both better than what we have up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Odegaard and Xhaka both walk into Spurs first XI IMO. Spurs midfield consists of the likes of Bentancur (good player) Pepe Sarr (average), Hojberg (average), Bissouma (average) and Oliver Skipp (clogger). They don't even play with an attacking midfielder / creative midfielder, their Midfield is a complete mess.

    When it comes to Spurs I take it most gooners can't be impartial for even a second.

    Anyway the stats show they don't play City and lose woefully every single time and have finished ahead of us on the league for the last few years with these "inferior" players... but lets not let that stop us from being a bit rational.

    Anyway I'd prefer we stop deflecting and actually get back to looking at the ability of our players individually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    When it comes to Spurs I take it most gooners can't be impartial for even a second.

    Anyway the stats show they don't play City and lose woefully every single time and have finished ahead of us on the league for the last few years with these "inferior" players... but lets not let that stop us from being a bit rational.

    Anyway I'd prefer we stop deflecting and actually get back to looking at the ability of our players individually.
    It’s not about impartiality, I think our overall squad is better than theirs currently. Son and Kane are the only two players who are objectively better than anyone we have in the same position.

    They have a lot of decent players for sure, but I prefer where we are in terms of squad development than them. Yes you’re right they are capable of beating City where we are not, but as awful as our record is…Spurs have an awful record against countless other teams (not beaten Liverpool since 2017, not beaten Chelsea in the league since 2018, have lost their last four league games against Man United)

    Yes they’ve finished above us since 2017, but that’s not likely happening this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    It’s not about impartiality, I think our overall squad is better than theirs currently. Son and Kane are the only two players who are objectively better than anyone we have in the same position.

    They have a lot of decent players for sure, but I prefer where we are in terms of squad development than them. Yes you’re right they are capable of beating City where we are not, but as awful as our record is…Spurs have an awful record against countless other teams (not beaten Liverpool since 2017, not beaten Chelsea in the league since 2018, have lost their last four league games against Man United)

    Yes they’ve finished above us since 2017, but that’s not likely happening this season
    Agree, although I do worry that if our freefall lasts much longer and they pick up form, it could be closer than we'd like, but getting back to the point, pure talent-wise we have a better team IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    When it comes to Spurs I take it most gooners can't be impartial for even a second.

    Anyway the stats show they don't play City and lose woefully every single time and have finished ahead of us on the league for the last few years with these "inferior" players... but lets not let that stop us from being a bit rational.

    Anyway I'd prefer we stop deflecting and actually get back to looking at the ability of our players individually.
    Agree to disagree

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