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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Other people may have done but I was a mixture of relieved and angry that put ourselves in the position to begin with

    It’s all relative at the end of the day, when you’re judging a player you can only judge them against the quality of players in the game presently. And in that regard yes Partey is a top player

    Also in respect of your other post, it feels a bit contradictory. You blame the club for its mentality by citing the whole Top 4 Trophy thing but then start by conceding that in a shit league city win by 90% chequebook.

    You can argue that to explicitly state Top 4 is a trophy breeds a mentality that doesn’t even try to win. But ultimately the 90% chequebook will always override the 10% mentality/culture in the long term.

    This idea that we’ve not achieved because the fans weren’t ambitious enough and didn’t demand it more…Is lovely and everything. But believing I should be a Doctor won’t bridge the intellectual gap to make it happen
    In fairness, I don't think NQ was saying that the club currently accepts that top four is a trophy, but arguing that this was the case during the late Wenger years, and created a mentality that has taken a lot to shift...

    I read his post as supportive of what Arteta has achieved, and as calling out fans who think that he should have made the leap from a team outside the European places to league winners by now.
    Last edited by IBK; 26-04-2023 at 01:50 PM.
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