Summer Transfer Shit and Everything Else

[mandela8]

I hope you're right but Arteta seems to be very binary about players, either they're a Xhaka or Zin who can never do anything wrong and are always on the team sheet, or they're pretty much pond life to him

I do agree with that, tbh. For that reason I guess concern is warranted, but I just think this one is a little different. Gabriel will be back soon, I reckon.

[HCZ_Reborn]

they're not mutually exclusive, if it was a player Arteta wanted to keep we wouldn't be selling and the problem here is that Arteta is in a very small minority (possibly of one) who thinks Gabriel is someone we should sell

for example, if it was me I'd sell Zin - I know many wouldn't agree, but the point i'm making is I would sell Zin because i don't like him much as a player and think he detracts from our play, so perhaps Arteta thinks the same about Gabriel - but he's in such a small minority there that i think ki'm entitled to say he's wrong

the rest of us know how well he teams up with Saliba

frankly if we sell Gabriel to pay for Havertz that's the worst exchange ever

They are kind of mutually exclusive, you want to sell Zinchenko? Join the queue but it’s not Zinchenko that the Saudis are sniffing around. If we got rid of all the players we want to get rid of, it gets them off the wage bill but not going to get the money we need for them.

Arteta doesn’t rate Tierney, we agree that’s silly. But surely why not hold out for a better offer than going on loan to Sociedad? Because that’s what we are doing with Gabriel, and what’s what we did with Partey.


There’s clearly desperation to get cash in for players.

[HCZ_Reborn]

“The word was out, the bosses had, had enough of Mikel…they’d had enough. How much more were they going to take. So they buried him and Edu whilst they were still breathing”

[Marc Overmars]

Tavares being loaned to Forest.

Mad how we can’t get any money for our players.

[Chippy]

Tavares being loaned to Forest.

Mad how we can’t get any money for our players.

Because most of them are shit.

[Mac76]

Because most of them are shit.

NOt only are they not very good but also Arteta's obvious discarding of players he doesn't rate or want to include is devaluing them

[HCZ_Reborn]

It’s like the Raya signing, an initial loan with a purchase option…a try before you buy if you like. Plus ultimately if you loan a player out into the premier league that gives you every chance of increasing their value.

Tavares is good going forward but he can’t defend for shit so we don’t really need him.

[IBK]

they're not mutually exclusive, if it was a player Arteta wanted to keep we wouldn't be selling and the problem here is that Arteta is in a very small minority (possibly of one) who thinks Gabriel is someone we should sell

for example, if it was me I'd sell Zin - I know many wouldn't agree, but the point i'm making is I would sell Zin because i don't like him much as a player and think he detracts from our play, so perhaps Arteta thinks the same about Gabriel - but he's in such a small minority there that i think ki'm entitled to say he's wrong

the rest of us know how well he teams up with Saliba

frankly if we sell Gabriel to pay for Havertz that's the worst exchange ever

I agree with you re Gabriel. He was part of maybe the best CB pairing in the league last season, and it's no mystery why we dropped off defensively when Saliba got injured. IMO football is a team game and you have to look at how players combine rether than simply judge them individually. Gabriel made some mistakes, but so do the majority of CB's. Saliba has made 2 glaring ones in 3 games this season. Gabriel is not only a full blooded defender - that I think helps us, but he is an organiser (we desperately need one given our weakness in defending set pieces) and an important goal threat from corners/set pieces at the other end. I am frustrated by whet seems to be a 'situation' with him, and Gabriel's absense is one of my chief frustrations so far this season.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Balogun to Monaco is done, I can’t even pretend to feel too disheartened by this. I’ve seen no evidence that he’s any better than Edward, and Edward at least has goalscoring experience in the premier league. Plus many of us are now at the point where we’d start Edward over Jesus because he’s scored twice, and whilst I find his indecision in front of goal disheartening he makes himself available and on balance has been one of the few players this season who on balance hasn’t been a disappointment

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently we’ve got a 17.5% sell on clause which is decent.