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Thread: The Arsenal v Man Siteh, Sunday 8 October 2023

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    Well that’s what I thought he was laughing at. And yes it was an obvious statement, but I felt the need to say it because of the lack of both chance creation and finesse.

    9 in 4 league games isn’t terrible, but when you take away the penalties and own goals it’s only six. Which considering how high we press doesn’t seem like we are terribly efficient either at creating chances or putting them away. Havertz has been a big reason for this, seems to take too long to decide what he wants to do with the ball and then ends up doing nothing. There’s also very little understanding between him and Martinelli, so the latter was being isolated.

    Also I’m sorry to say it but Rice, not quick and not technical…therefore you lose an efficient method of transitioning from defence to attack, so we are reliant on the high press of the attacking quintet rather than playing out from the back. And we are often left with sideways passing in front of eleven players.

    The failure to acknowledge this amongst Arsenal fans, I just find it highly quizzical. I don’t know whether it’s because we’ve paid a lot of money for him or because despite his limitations he has played well and worked hard. It’s not even a criticism of him, it’s like saying that I’m not a grand chess master is a self-criticism rather than a statement of fact.

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    Draw at best for this really.

    The problem is that even if City have an off day, they’re still quite likely to get a result. If we have an off day it will be a comprehensive defeat. To a man we need to be firing on all cylinders to even have a sniff of winning.

    Then you’ve got the mental block aspect of it too. 12 defeats in a row is rotten and I don’t really think the Community Shield win would have done much to alleviate those fears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Draw at best for this really.

    The problem is that even if City have an off day, they’re still quite likely to get a result. If we have an off day it will be a comprehensive defeat. To a man we need to be firing on all cylinders to even have a sniff of winning.

    Then you’ve got the mental block aspect of it too. 12 defeats in a row is rotten and I don’t really think the Community Shield win would have done much to alleviate those fears.
    We don’t have the excuse of injuries, apparently even Martinelli should make the squad and is pushing for a start

    Therefore the only player we have out is Timber. Last season we didn’t have Partey for the home game and didn’t have Saliba for the away game. Don’t get me wrong not saying we’d have definitely got a result if those players were available but ultimately I don’t think there’s anything to say we don’t have the players available to get a result.

    We could lose, but we also should be mindful that it’s not just our biggest game of the season so far, it’s theirs. Despite the awful record coming to the Emirates will be one of the hardest fixtures on their calendar. I think our centre backs are better than theirs, their strikers are better than ours. With no De Bruyne and no Rodri I think we are pretty even in midfield.

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    Arsenal: Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Rice, Jorginho, Odegaard, Trossard, Jesus, Nketiah.
    Subs: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Kiwior, Partey, Smith Rowe, Vieira, Nelson, Martinelli, Havertz.

    Citeh: Ederson; Walker, Dias, Gvardiol, Ake; Lewis, Kovacic, Alvarez; Foden, Haaland, Bernardo
    Subs: Ortega, Phillips, Stones, Grealish, Doku, Gomez, Akanji, Nunez, Bobb

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    Just seen the lineup, no Saka, not even on the bench - well done Arteta

    Jorg and Trossard start

    Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Rice, Jorginho, Odegaard, Trossard, Jesus, Nketiah. Subs: Ramsdale, Kiwior, Tomiyasu, Partey, Smith Rowe, Vieira, Nelson, Havertz, Martinelli.

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    Well despite what I said above, that’s 13 defeats in a row

    Directly and indirectly caused by Arteta

    Directly - playing Jorginho when he has Partey available

    Indirectly - Running Saka into the ground, so we have to play Jesus on the right

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    Come on Arsenal.

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    Rice clears off the line!

    Ake should score!

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    Raya is having a mare.

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    Not even close from Nketiah.

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