yeah that's pretty much on the money, though I think Nelson played well, it's not his fault if Havertz isn't up to it and he had Kiwior behind himOriginally Posted by IBK
yeah that's pretty much on the money, though I think Nelson played well, it's not his fault if Havertz isn't up to it and he had Kiwior behind him
He might have overall played well (not sure I have much of a view about that tbh), but that early chance with that great ball from Ramsdale. The lack of composure is embarrassing from all of them.
He didn’t though…constant first touch of a rapist
He didn’t look up to it at this level. I like Nelson because of his work ethic and he brings a bit direct dimension to our game but technically he looks every inch the ex academy boy who hasn’t really got it
It’s like his brain is doing one thing while his legs are doing another. Dribbles like an amateur and doesn’t look after the ball very well at all. I’m absolutely certain he’s only here for the homegrown quota and FFP reasons because he’s so far away from being considered as a first team regular.
He needs to be sold in the summer and we need to find ourselves a better wide technician.
Unfortunately I've got to agree with this.
Always wanted Nelson to excel but he's not taking the chances he's getting from Arteta.
Even comparing him to other academy products like Iwobi and Wilock looks silly now.
I think we need to close his chapter with us.
Totally disagree I'm afraid, he was one of our better players on the day and did enough to gain further starts
As for your constant references to sexual deviance, have you ever thought of getting psychiatric help before your disturbing obsession gets out of hand (assuming it hasn't already)...?
I’m going to assume from this that you don’t really have anything substantive to add to your point. Though in my experience people who feel the need to lecture others on misogynistic or intemperate language are usually the dark horses
It also appears that I wasn’t the only one less than impressed by Nelson. I have no problem in him coming on in games to add a bit of energy but given the opposition we were playing he did im afraid look out of his depth, and Alexander Arnold was clearly far more troubled by Martinelli when he came on.
I thought it was only fair to give him a start especially as Martinelli is massively out of form, but the gulf in quality was quite evident
He isn't the same player as Martinelli, I'm not saying he's the best ever but he showed he can do a good job as a squad player and deserves more starts IMO Martinelli had a couple of decent moments when he cMe om but again showed the flaws he's had recently
Nelson was better on the ball than people here are saying and what you probably didn't see was that he also took up some good positions off the ball but the others didn't get him the pass often enough, again Rice was particularly guilty of this
As for your 'not the only one' point, people i spoke to during and after the match all said he did well - and these were the people at the game
On the sexual deviance thing I'm not talking about whether or not it's offensive, I'm just saying you may not realise what it says about you or the rather disturbing way in which you appear to think
Or could be that you don’t know what you’re talking about. I used to work with someone who lost his job because of sexual harassment (and although I don’t know whether the particular allegations were true…but there was enough I did know that would suggest to me that they absolutely were) and this was someone who pretended to be all nice and friendly yet couple of times tried to say things to me sotto voice that were a bit dodgy about people we knew and I told him it wasn’t on.
Using rapist as a pejorative to describe a horrible first touch (which he consistently showed and I’m sorry but he did) is not a particularly pleasant analogy, but it speaks more to your over sensitivity than it does to sexual deviancy on my part. But as we’ve established many times when it comes to understanding people you’re not especially very good at it.
Now as to his movement off the ball, well there I can concede that I’m more dependent on the whims of the camera than you were. But I’m equally dependent on you as being reliable and honest in telling me that people around you said how well he played.
They might well have done, but equally in my mind it’s just as likely you would claim this had that not been the case. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume for the sake of argument they did say it. Nelson as I’ve already stated there’s nothing wrong with his industry, he will work hard he will make himself available and he will run…no question this is commendable but technically severely lacking.
Do you know anything about professional rowing? I've only been getting into it for the last 3 years but in that time I've come to appreciate what teamwork actually is, as opposed to the increasingly individual focus in football. But getting into it, I mean observing of course. I'd be dead after 2 minutes if I tried to actually do it, such is the excellence, selflessness and supreme conditioning required at the top level. When I watch Odegard take the ball, look up and then misplace a pass (for the 20th time) I laugh at how unprofessional and how selfish and uncommitted he quite obviously is. We could say that's Arteta's failure to motivate him, but if he can't motivate himself to respect the shirt and his teammates as a base, minimum standard then how will a manager get anything useful out of him. People were rolling their eyes when I mentioned the appalling kit. We'll you'd never see Oxford or Cambridge out on the river on race day in anything other than their traditional kit, because that's a small piece of a thousand pieces of tradition and respect and identity that makes those boats and crews excellent before a blade is dropped. You don't get anything like that coming from this Arsenal cash machine brimming with mercenaries. So maybe they fancy playing one day, maybe they don't another. The rowing crews do it for the sport, the footballers do it for the cash. It couldn't be more obvious and it's the explanation for why a player like Saka can be unplayable one day and distracted the next. He's not a real professional and he doesn't have sufficient respect for his team. I'm not just picking on him - every modern player is the same. 65 million for that chav who strolled around the park and can't even kick a ball straight (I bet he could if he had an ounce of respect for his team or a speck of pride in himself). And then 200K+ in his pocket as a reward? So why's he going to burst his blood vessels and collapse from exhaustion?
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