Bayern Munich v Arsenal. 17th April. 20:00. CL 1/4 Final 2nd Leg.

[Letters]

The thing about City though is you feel they'll just do whatever other teams do and then just go a bit better.
Like a 10,000m runner who just keeps pace and then at the bell sprints the last lap and blows everyone away.
Liverpool got 97 points, City got 98. Liverpool won every game in the run in so City did too.
The only time anyone stopped them was Liverpool winning 26 of the first 27 games or something insane like that.
To me it's a bit like chiding other runners for being rubbish when Usain Bolt was at his pomp.
That said, obviously we should always strive to improve and maybe with Klopp gone we'll have a clearer run next season.

[HCZ_Reborn]

The thing about City though is you feel they'll just do whatever other teams do and then just go a bit better.
Like a 10,000m runner who just keeps pace and then at the bell sprints the last lap and blows everyone away.
Liverpool got 97 points, City got 98. Liverpool won every game in the run in so City did too.
The only time anyone stopped them was Liverpool winning 26 of the first 27 games or something insane like that.
To me it's a bit like chiding other runners for being rubbish when Usain Bolt was at his pomp.
That said, obviously we should always strive to improve and maybe with Klopp gone we'll have a clearer run next season.

As I say, the issue is us not City. We consistently get 90 points a season and we are still being bested by City then we can talk.

We have to win every game from now till the end of the season just to match what we got in 01/02

[Letters]

So your complaint is we're not consistently getting more points than The Invincibles.
If that's your bar then prepare for a lifetime of disappointment.

[HCZ_Reborn]

So your complaint is we're not consistently getting more points than The Invincibles.
If that's your bar then prepare for a lifetime of disappointment.

Well I have haven’t I

The fact is that’s been the benchmark of a title winning side for 20 years now. 85-90 points.

Do I expect us to get that every single season?. No. But the failure to get it even once since 2004…makes me kind of think what City are or are not achieving is irrelevant.


Liverpool managed to get in excess of 90 points in three seasons, only one of those did they win the league. They probably have fair reason to bemoan the City machine

We don’t

[Letters]

Do I expect us to get that every single season?. No. But the failure to get it even once since 2004…makes me kind of think what City are or are not achieving is irrelevant.

I mean, to be fair for much of that time we haven't been anywhere near good enough to challenge. Till a couple of seasons ago we weren't finishing top 4, let alone being anywhere near title contenders.

[Mac76]

anyway let's hope we win tonight eh?

[Letters]

anyway let's hope we win tonight eh?

[HCZ_Reborn]

I mean, to be fair for much of that time we haven't been anywhere near good enough to challenge. Till a couple of seasons ago we weren't finishing top 4, let alone being anywhere near title contenders.

Right

But neither at the moment do we have the right to bemoan City because we aren’t reaching the minimum standards in order to claim we’ve done enough to be title winners. What City have or have not achieved this season is actually far less germane than the fact we’ve been doubled by Villa, had four points taken off us by Fulham and couldn’t get decent results at home to Spurs or away to Newcastle.

I don’t really get how any of this is controversial.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bayern Munich: Neuer, Kimmich, de Ligt, Dier, Mazraoui, Goretzka, Laimer, Sane, Musiala, Guerreiro, Kane.
Subs: Upamecano, Kim, Choupo-Moting, Zaragoza, Peretz, Muller, Ulreich, Tel, Pavlovic

Arsenal: Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Tomiyasu, Rice, Jorginho, Odegaard, Saka, Martinelli, Havertz.
Subs: Ramsdale, Partey, Gabriel Jesus, Smith Rowe, Nketiah, Kiwior, Trossard, Vieira, Nelson, Elneny, Hein, Zinchenko.