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Thread: Brighton vs Arsenal 04.01.2025 - KO: 17:30 GMT

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Didn’t decide the result yesterday. Not starting Odegaard or Martinelli decided the result. They gave a bullshit pel against us for sure but scoring one goal away from home was never going to be enough when we haven’t kept a single clean sheet away from home in the previous eight away games
    Odegaard was ill and I've no objection to rotating Martinelli as an impact sub on the bench and giving Nwaneri (who, err, scored btw) starting, I thought he played fine and was trying to make thingss happen

    the way you dismiss players scoring goals is hilarious

    but that aside our fundamental flaw is our needing more attacking players
    Last edited by Mac76; 05-01-2025 at 10:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Odegaard was ill and I've no objection to rotating Martinelli as an impact sub on the bench and giving Nwaneri (who, err, scored btw) starting, I thought he played fine and was trying to make thingss happen

    the way you dismiss players scoring goals is hilarious

    but that aside our fundamental flaw is our needing more attacking players
    I’m confused by this statement

    “The way you dismiss players scoring goals is hilarious”

    If you can find anywhere in what I’ve written where I’ve been dismissive of Nwaneri who got the goal yesterday please by all means feel free to highlight that.

    The fact is though that we started yesterday with four defensive midfielders in the Starting XI. And I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that if Martinelli and Odegaard were fit enough to be brought on when we put ourselves in a position where we were chasing the game, they were fit enough to start.

    How that can be construed in any reasonable way as being dismissive towards Nwaneri I don’t know….I have no problem with him starting games. I actually think yesterday the smartest course of action, would have been to play him in the Odegaard role, play Jesus on the right, play Martinelli on the left and Trossard up front (he’s not a striker but he’s the only player available who can hold up the ball) and then played Partey at 8 and Maitland-Niles on the right.


    I said from the outside I was aghast at that lineup in a game where we needed to win….and when we know that match officials will punish us for things they will never punish other teams for it made it even more stupid to put out a team that was going to struggle to create chances.


    We didn’t have the luxury of rotating, but again in this match like against Ipswich, like against Everton, like against Fulham. The coach puts impediments on our ability to score goals with the lineup and set up.


    Of course I think we should have signed a striker in the transfer market and over the last nine transfer window we should have been more focused on attack and creativity than we have. But even with what we have available, we put constraints on our attacking play. Playing Partey at right back when we’ve won only one game from five when he plays there because we are not utilising the fact that he’s been the best midfielder for us this season would be the biggest example of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    Reading this morning that VAR checked & cleared the decision within seconds (assume that means they watched one replay) yet the slow motion clearly shows ball touching Salibas head before contact. These people take minutes checking if big toes are offside yet rush these kind of decisions.

    Sack the PGMOL, it’s not fit for purpose. Clubs sign players from all over the world to improve why can’t we do same with referees instead of having tje same shit ones every week
    Seem that a player could shoot ome of our players and PGMOL would send off our player for holding onto the bullet for too long (bit obsessive but still)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazthegooner View Post
    Seem that a player could shoot ome of our players and PGMOL would send off our player for holding onto the bullet for too long (bit obsessive but still)


    Delaying the reload?

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    Also how wasn’t the blatant trip on Gabriel a penalty in the first half?

    Happy to give a nonsense penalty to Brighton and let off a clear trip. It’s just incompetence

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    I have to say as much as I’ve decried Arsenal social media for its willingness to have basque cock slammed against their tonsils. There is a dawning realisation after the emotions of a shoddy penalty decision, that they are making excuses for a complete and utter fraud.

    No ultimately what the fanbase thinks of Arteta won’t make a difference. But it’s refreshing to see people realising they were in a cult

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    I'm still not convinced it wasn't a penalty, the replays I have seen show the ball hitting Saliba after it came off Pedro and then Saliba twats him into next week.
    Either way, we should have been in a position that a penalty to them made no difference to the outcome! Scoring one goal and then reverting to playing like shit is not acceptable on any level and Arteta has done this numerous times this season with the same result.

    However, we have been pretty doghsit for the whole of the season so far, with a few stand out performances in some games.

    From last season, we should have pushed on and been top of the league and clear right now but instead we look like this:

    We had the best defence - now it looks like a mid table one
    We had the best attack - now it looks like a relegation one
    We had the best football outside of City - now it looks like a military parade
    We were title contenders - now, I don't even fucking know what we look like!

    5 years into this 'process' we look like we did in the first season Arteta took over.

    Serious questions need to be asked

    How have we gone backwards?
    Why is our team and squad smaller and worse than it ever was?
    Why do our players look like they all have lost the ability to play football?
    WTF is Arteta doing???
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    It wasn’t a penalty and if it was, then literally hundreds of incidents like that have been not given as penalties

    That the penalty shouldn’t have been the difference between winning or not, does not detract from the fact that we are being officiated in a much more stricter and harsher way than any other premier league team. I don’t want Arteta to hide behind this, as he often likes to do…but I don’t think Brighton would have come back into the game without a penalty award that even their own players weren’t appealing for.

    It’s not a binary, you can believe both that Arteta is doing a lousy job and that we have been penalised in the most egregious way

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    We had the best defence - now it looks like a mid table one
    We've conceded 18 goals, at this stage last season we'd conceded 20.

    We had the best attack - now it looks like a relegation one
    We've scored 39 goals, at this stage last season we'd scored 37

    We had the best football outside of City - now it looks like a military parade
    Hard to argue with this, we aren't playing good football right now.

    We were title contenders - now, I don't even fucking know what we look like!
    We were 5 points off the top at this stage last season - also to Liverpool. Who now have 1 more point having played one less game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I said from the outside I was aghast at that lineup in a game where we needed to win….
    Which shows how oblivious to reality you are, there was literally no-one else to play aprt from Martinelli and tbh it can be a good thing to have at least one player who can come on and have impact, Martinelli started at the weekend so he went with Trossard who wasn't as bad as some people say and Marintelli wasn't any better when he came on.

    The real failure is the fact that there isn't greater attacking depth in the squad, Saturday was just a symptom of that

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