When will Arteta be sacked by

[Letters]

You’re worse than me honestly.

Ah, your old "you know you are, you said you are" gambit. You do that a lot.

You said edited as if that means anything. Answer me this, why would it have been edited to make him seem worse than he is.

I'm not saying they were editing it with any specific agenda, but something being edited necessarily means you're not seeing the whole thing. And of course that means something. Like how when I watch a few highlights you tell me I'm not seeing the whole game and therefore you know better than me. Curiously you also seem to know better than other people who watched the game.
But the point is Mrs Arteta appears for a few minutes of the whole series. And from that and some brief interaction between them in front of cameras, which necessarily changes behaviour anyway, you think you have some insight into the state of their marriage. It's laughable, honestly.

LOL @ you calling anyone else arrogant. As Oscar Wilde, or possibly Simply Red, once said "look in the mirror baby".

[KSE Comedy Club]

Fair enough, I’ve never liked him on a personal level…just seems cold, passive aggressive and unpleasant. I’ve also never liked the football we played under him, but in terms of head to head against the bigger teams it’s clearly been bringing us success. I think people talking about regression have short memories…as this for me is Groundhog Day of where we were exactly a year ago. But the problem is hard of thinking people seem to think I’m saying this as a defence of the man when it’s the opposite.

I think people do absolutely also like throwing the baby out with the bath water and talk about another rebuild. I mean why…this is a very good squad that needs for me three players…cover for Odegaard or indeed someone who can play with him as part of a double pivot, cover for Saka and a striker.

I don’t trust Arteta to a) get in these players b) let go of his need either for the inverted full back or the no8 role. That kind of stubborn obsessiveness doesn’t auger a happy ending so he needs to go with minimum of ceremony.

Agreed, we do have a decent squad - but when you bring in a new manager they will ultimately want to replace some of the existing players and change the way we play, so it will become a rebuild of sorts.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Agreed, we do have a decent squad - but when you bring in a new manager they will ultimately want to replace some of the existing players and change the way we play, so it will become a rebuild of sorts.

This is precisely why for my money, why we should have a head coach and not a manager

Someone who basically is agreeable with the philosophy we want, which is to control and contain games when we are playing the big sides, but to actually be far more fluid when we are playing Cerebral Palsy FC at home

[IBK]

I think that this is precisely what makes Slot special. In any event, my real point was that a new manager coming in and instantly making a team title contenders/achieving the results he has is fairly unique. It's easy in theory to argue that there is a manager out there who would do better with our squad than Areteta is but in practice there are too many variables to make this a certainty, or even a likelihood. We only have to look at the many examples of managerial changes in our own league over the past few years. As always, the majority have not worked as planned - at least on the first change. The higher up the league you get, the less likely it is that the planets will align to bring sucess. Like players, often those who are most vociferous about new signings - based on assumptions about likely performance - are the same people who are first to write those same signings off when their aspirations are not met quickly.

Been listening to Arseblog today. I am always pleased to be forced to look at an issue in a different way (there is always an alternative view). Harry Symeou made the point that it is inconceivable that Arteta's plan was to only improve his forward line with Sterling at the last minute. It is similarly inconceivable that our manager cannot see that we are lacking in this department. Further, while I feel that the club has been naive in trusting that the performances of the second half of last season would continue their trajectory, it is impossible to legislate/plan for so many players being off form at the same time. Not sure I buy this, but it is not impossible to take the view that Arteta is actually getting a tune out of many of our players that often exceeds their level of ability. Neither is it so far fetched to wonder whether the Club has refused to fund the players that Arteta feels his system needs to succeed.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Ah, your old "you know you are, you said you are" gambit. You do that a lot.


I'm not saying they were editing it with any specific agenda, but something being edited necessarily means you're not seeing the whole thing. And of course that means something. Like how when I watch a few highlights you tell me I'm not seeing the whole game and therefore you know better than me. Curiously you also seem to know better than other people who watched the game.
But the point is Mrs Arteta appears for a few minutes of the whole series. And from that and some brief interaction between them in front of cameras, which necessarily changes behaviour anyway, you think you have some insight into the state of their marriage. It's laughable, honestly.

LOL @ you calling anyone else arrogant. As Oscar Wilde, or possibly Simply Red, once said "look in the mirror baby".

I don’t understand your last argument. Why does me being arrogant preclude me from calling anyone else arrogant. Even if I knew what I was doing, I’d be a terrible Arsenal coach because I’m a need to be right egomaniac who would start fights with players and other staff.

In fact my arrogance gives me good grounding to see it in others

[HCZ_Reborn]

I think that this is precisely what makes Slot special. In any event, my real point was that a new manager coming in and instantly making a team title contenders/achieving the results he has is fairly unique. It's easy in theory to argue that there is a manager out there who would do better with our squad than Areteta is but in practice there are too many variables to make this a certainty, or even a likelihood. We only have to look at the many examples of managerial changes in our own league over the past few years. As always, the majority have not worked as planned - at least on the first change. The higher up the league you get, the less likely it is that the planets will align to bring sucess. Like players, often those who are most vociferous about new signings - based on assumptions about likely performance - are the same people who are first to write those same signings off when their aspirations are not met quickly.

Been listening to Arseblog today. I am always pleased to be forced to look at an issue in a different way (there is always an alternative view). Harry Symeou made the point that it is inconceivable that Arteta's plan was to only improve his forward line with Sterling at the last minute. It is similarly inconceivable that our manager cannot see that we are lacking in this department. Further, while I feel that the club has been naive in trusting that the performances of the second half of last season would continue their trajectory, it is impossible to legislate/plan for so many players being off form at the same time. Not sure I buy this, but it is not impossible to take the view that Arteta is actually getting a tune out of many of our players that often exceeds their level of ability. Neither is it so far fetched to wonder whether the Club has refused to fund the players that Arteta feels his system needs to succeed.

The point isn’t that he didn’t buy a striker in the summer. It’s that he’s had nine transfer windows and the nearest he came to a striker was Jesus. Havertz was signed to replace Xhaka, so we only have him up front by accident rather than design.

I hear that he decided to wait because he couldn’t get Sesko, but come on what other area of the pitch does he show this Goldilocks mentality. By the summer of 2022 we lost two strikers Laca and Auba, and fine neither were performing great. But we spent thirty million on Vieira and thirty million on Zinchenko when arguably we needed neither

[Marc Overmars]

Saw a comment that said his biggest mistake was blowing the budget on Havertz. As a result of this, we now have an issue in midfield and also up front because Havertz excels in neither position. 2 positions overlooked and ruined by Arteta with one bad roll of the dice.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Saw a comment that said his biggest mistake was blowing the budget on Havertz. As a result of this, we now have an issue in midfield and also up front because Havertz excels in neither position. 2 positions overlooked and ruined by Arteta with one bad roll of the dice.

I think Havertz is an excellent back up striker, and unfortunately in this day and age 65 million is not a massive overspend

But like Giroud before him, he’s not the one who should be leading the line week in, week out

[Mac76]

But like Giroud before him, he’s not the one who should be leading the line week in, week out

Thing is, he hasn't been because in many games Arteta put him back in midfield where he's largely ineffectual - Arteta's taking people out of their best position because he won't try younger players, e.g. NIcholls at RB who looked fine in the summer, has without doubt cost us, he's just so conservative

As I recall he only even started playing Saka because fucking Willian was injured I think

[Letters]

I don’t understand your last argument. Why does me being arrogant preclude me from calling anyone else arrogant. Even if I knew what I was doing, I’d be a terrible Arsenal coach because I’m a need to be right egomaniac who would start fights with players and other staff.

In fact my arrogance gives me good grounding to see it in others

I guess your self-awareness is commendable.

It doesn't preclude you from calling anyone else arrogant, I was just laughing as it was a bit "pot calling the kettle black".
And if it's one of your reasons why you dislike him - which is reasonable, as it's generally regarded as an undesirable trait - I wonder why you seem to revel in your own.

Personally I don't really care whether Arteta is likeable - I honestly don't have much opinion about that. I just care about results.