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    Had a look at those Havertz missed chances again and they are absolutely atrocious. To miss the target on both occasions as well especially that one in the six yard box that he took down and lifted over the bar, unbelievably bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    Since when have they ever “trashed” us at our place?
    Laugh after the game not before it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Even before this weeks cup misery and really even before the Saka injury most of us felt this season was at high risk of flatlining. I know we pulled it together last year but there isn’t a chance in hell of that happening again with such a run down squad where players are getting injured every week. We can’t even field the same line up twice on the bounce because of the fitness issues every player appears to be dealing with.

    We are in salvage mode now because this season is hanging on by the thinnest of threads and I do think it’s going to get very ugly should we lose to either Spurs or Villa.
    Agreed - and we could very well lose to both IMO

    I really do think even top four is something we will really struggle with this season if we don't act to a) strengthen the squad and b) adopt a more positive tactical approach

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    A couple of weeks ago I think it was highly unlikely that we could or would lose both these games. But with the team available to us, it wouldn’t matter what coach we have. Spurs is a game that could go either way and Villa is a highly probable defeat.

    I don’t believe Now that Arteta is being stubborn about signing attacking player(s), his reputation is on the line at this moment in time and even I don’t think he’s insane enough to burn everything down in service to prove he’s right…about what ?

    The noises he’s making is suggesting that the wage bill restrictions make it hard to sign someone. The Jesus injury is a disaster, not because he’s any use to us as a player because he isn’t…but it removes any chance of us getting him off the wage bill in January.

    As for changing the style of play, I’m not sure that’s tenable now either. I’ve made as much noise as anyone to scrap the number 8 nonsense and play with two creative midfielders in front of the holding midfielder, problem is we don’t have two creative midfielders available. We don’t have one arguably, we have Odegaard who any other club would have rested for both cup matches….a player who looks dead on his feet.

    I think ultimately the only thing we can do is play for a draw in both games, and have some luck with players coming back in the next couple of weeks. The title if it wasn’t over before last week is definitely over now, we simply can’t put out a team that can win games at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    There’s no point comparing it to last season now. We did not have anywhere near the injury pile up we have now.

    Our squad is dangerously depleted. For the Spurs game it’s likely we will be without the following

    White, Timber, Calafiori, Jorginho, Nwaneri, Jesus, Saka


    We are at the point where we can barely put a team out. I don’t think there’s a bottom we can reach at this point with fixture pile up. It’s not going to get better, it’s going to likely get a lot worse.
    The sad thing is that our injury list is not that different to a number of EPL clubs and we have a bigger squad than most in MF and defensive positions. The problem is that we have made ourselves too light in the attacking department - so the injuries to Saka, Nwaneri and now Jesus have crippled us more than should have been the case.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    A couple of weeks ago I think it was highly unlikely that we could or would lose both these games. But with the team available to us, it wouldn’t matter what coach we have. Spurs is a game that could go either way and Villa is a highly probable defeat.

    I don’t believe Now that Arteta is being stubborn about signing attacking player(s), his reputation is on the line at this moment in time and even I don’t think he’s insane enough to burn everything down in service to prove he’s right…about what ?

    The noises he’s making is suggesting that the wage bill restrictions make it hard to sign someone. The Jesus injury is a disaster, not because he’s any use to us as a player because he isn’t…but it removes any chance of us getting him off the wage bill in January.

    As for changing the style of play, I’m not sure that’s tenable now either. I’ve made as much noise as anyone to scrap the number 8 nonsense and play with two creative midfielders in front of the holding midfielder, problem is we don’t have two creative midfielders available. We don’t have one arguably, we have Odegaard who any other club would have rested for both cup matches….a player who looks dead on his feet.

    I think ultimately the only thing we can do is play for a draw in both games, and have some luck with players coming back in the next couple of weeks. The title if it wasn’t over before last week is definitely over now, we simply can’t put out a team that can win games at the moment.
    Can't disagree with any of that. My (blind) optimistic side says that Spurs are also seriously depleted, and surely for this home fixture at least the players can get up for this home game (like I say, we are creating chances). I am still hoping that we can somehow win on Wednesday. Saturday I am more pessimistic about. If we can get 4 points from the 2 games this will be a good couple of results, in the context of where we are...
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Spurs are more depleted than us especially at the back however they do have a better forward line than us that won’t miss the kind of chances we did yesterday.

    It’s a game that I still think we’ll win because Spurs are Spurs, it’s Villa that I can see doing a number on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    The sad thing is that our injury list is not that different to a number of EPL clubs and we have a bigger squad than most in MF and defensive positions. The problem is that we have made ourselves too light in the attacking department - so the injuries to Saka, Nwaneri and now Jesus have crippled us more than should have been the case.
    I don’t know how our squad can be so thin yet we have one of the largest wage bills in the premier league (certainly no lower than 5th). We spend 310 million a year on wages approximately. Players like Jesus being on such a ridiculous amount contributes to why we can’t bolster the attacking line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Spurs are more depleted than us especially at the back however they do have a better forward line than us that won’t miss the kind of chances we did yesterday.

    It’s a game that I still think we’ll win because Spurs are Spurs, it’s Villa that I can see doing a number on us.
    I fancy us against Spurs because...Spursy.
    They're not going to come to defend and we'll definitely get chances. Whether we have anyone competent enough to actually take them...
    But yes, Villa definitely a tougher nut to crack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    We spend 310 million a year on wages approximately.


    Holy shit...

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