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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Not sure it's just number of games though. Havertz is (was) asked to get through more work than Salah does each game, and game state has also been important - eg those games where we played with 10 men...
    Yes, Arteta's obsession with everyone having to defend as well as attack means it's much more workload on Havertz plus as IBK says the ten-men situations

    We should have stumped up the £60m for Watkins

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Not sure it's just number of games though. Havertz is (was) asked to get through more work than Salah does each game, and game state has also been important - eg those games where we played with 10 men...
    Not much we can do about the 10 men thing. Although more work is fair, he's one of the players in the PL who covers the most distance.
    It would be interesting to see how that compares with people like Henry back in the day who used to play pretty much every game and relied on pace a lot.

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    The other two aspects are a) although Salah will have played the same amount of games, I doubt he’s played the same amount of minutes. b) Havertz did not get the summer off and Salah did

    It would be interesting to compare the amount of running both have done over the season. But what can’t be ignored is that soft tissue injuries are more likely when someone is fatigued

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    What a complete mess.

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    Looks like Herertz could be out for the season

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    I’ve got a degree of sympathy for Arteta because the odds of your entire forward line being injured at the same time is ridiculous. However the club absolutely dropped the ball by not signing anyone in January.

    Everyone could see it was a gamble that was likely to backfire given how things have panned out this season.

    As far as I’m concerned the season has ended today because we’re not getting anywhere the title with Trossard, Sterling and Nwaneri as our only fit forwards. Havertz for all his finishing woes can play the role of a traditional striker, I have no clue how we can expect to score goals without him occupying opponents in the way he does. It’s basically going to be a 4-6-0 formation now.
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    To misquote Oscar Wilde “to lose one player to hamstring injury is unfortunate, to lose three is carelessness”

    With Saka, how many Amber warnings did Arteta chose to ignore. We played 21 games in 74 games how many of those did Havertz and Martinelli get any significant rest time because we’ve allowed our squad to be thinned out

    If losing out on the title to Liverpool is not a sacking offence (and to my mind it absolutely is) than this wilfull negligence definitely is. Top 4 will be a struggle even without further injuries and further injuries are guaranteed.

    If we don’t finish top four, I believe he will be gone. And justice will be done

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    The other two aspects are a) although Salah will have played the same amount of games, I doubt he’s played the same amount of minutes.
    Well, when you're right you're right. It's 2,860 minutes for Salah, 2,776 for Havertz. So you're right, that isn't the same!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazthegooner View Post
    Looks like Herertz could be out for the season


    Alright, Internet Explorer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Dubai training camp

    Arteta and the club's folly is now completely exposed

    We all know what wil happen next, they rush back Saka and then he gets injured again/exacerbates his current problem
    This is actually going to happen. It's all so predictable.
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