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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Yeah! Where's the quota for English coaches?
    They're all thick-as-shit dinosaurs

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    Or women
    Funnily enough I was watching an interview with Renee Segers this morning (whose Arsenal side beat Spuds 5-0 yesterday in case no-one noticed) and I reckon if she could get past the prejudice she'd no doubt encounter from pretty much everyone, she'd probably do quite well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    They're all thick-as-shit dinosaurs
    Maybe it’s your reflexive hatred for everything English that results in these “tired cliches” as you call them. Succinct observations as I call them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Maybe it’s your reflexive hatred for everything English that results in these “tired cliches” as you call them. Succinct observations as I call them.
    OK so what's your reason why, despite the number of English players in the league, hardly anyone is a successful manager and those who try, e.g. Lampard, Neville and Gerrard, are miserable failures?

    OK, I think Graham Potter (Chelsea was clearly the wrong gig) is decent but I'm struggling after that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    OK so what's your reason why, despite the number of English players in the league, hardly anyone is a successful manager and those who try, e.g. Lampard, Neville and Gerrard, are miserable failures?

    OK, I think Graham Potter (Chelsea was clearly the wrong gig) is decent but I'm struggling after that
    Because I don’t think that many are going into management after finishing their playing careers. There isn’t the financial incentive because in their playing careers they’ve made more money than they’d ever need to. Thus why I state that actually the best thing to do is encourage a passion for coaching at a young age, rather than make a generalised judgement about people based on nationality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Because I don’t think that many are going into management after finishing their playing careers. There isn’t the financial incentive because in their playing careers they’ve made more money than they’d ever need to. Thus why I state that actually the best thing to do is encourage a passion for coaching at a young age, rather than make a generalised judgement about people based on nationality.
    well that's a typical diversion away from the real discussion here, which is where are all the great English managers, ex-players or not?

    Why aren't all the clubs hiring them?

    give me the reason if it isn't that none of them are up to it...

    ... and if they're not up to it, it must be because their training methods, tactical thinking and man-management isn't up to scratch for a top side

    You only have to look at that idiot who forced Ben White to stop playing for England to see what kind of backward moron this country produces

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    well that's a typical diversion away from the real discussion here, which is where are all the great English managers, ex-players or not?

    Why aren't all the clubs hiring them?

    give me the reason if it isn't that none of them are up to it...

    ... and if they're not up to it, it must be because their training methods, tactical thinking and man-management isn't up to scratch for a top side

    You only have to look at that idiot who forced Ben White to stop playing for England to see what kind of backward moron this country produces
    Nitwit, you made your specious anti-English comments in response to a comment Letters made in response to my post. Which was about not enough English coaches in the game to begin with.

    Which is precisely the reason why people like Southgate end up becoming over promoted and Gerrard and Lampard fast tracked into coaching roles when it’s clear that they don’t have it in them

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Nitwit, you made your specious anti-English comments in response to a comment Letters made in response to my post. Which was about not enough English coaches in the game to begin with.

    Which is precisely the reason why people like Southgate end up becoming over promoted and Gerrard and Lampard fast tracked into coaching roles when it’s clear that they don’t have it in them
    more diversion?

    why aren't there more English coaches in the game?

    explain

    and it's not anti-English it's simply giving an explanation as to why English coaches don't make it - so I'm talking about English people in football coaching not in the round

    I'm still waiting for your alternative theory
    Last edited by Mac76; 17-02-2025 at 04:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    I'm still waiting for your alternative theory
    Did you see his first reply?
    You can disagree with his thesis, but he did give an answer.
    Isn't one factor that a lot of the players aren't English, that's going to translate in to who goes through to become a coach or manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    more diversion?

    why aren't there more English coaches in the game?

    explain

    and it's not anti-English it's simply giving an explanation as to why English coaches don't make it - so I'm talking about English people in football coaching not in the round

    I'm still waiting for your alternative theory
    To propose an alternative theory, there has to be a theory which it’s an alternative to. All you’ve given is a missive saying that somehow being English makes you tactically backward

    I’ve offered the theory that because of the money in the game for players that there’s less incentive to get into coaching at the end of their careers and it’s often easier as a result doing punditry work (certainly no shortage of ex player pundits)

    And that if we encouraged players earlier in their careers to get interested in coaching we’d have a greater pool to choose from, or at the very least be back to where we were 20-30 years ago where there were more English coaches in the top flight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    To propose an alternative theory, there has to be a theory which it’s an alternative to. All you’ve given is a missive saying that somehow being English makes you tactically backward

    I’ve offered the theory that because of the money in the game for players that there’s less incentive to get into coaching at the end of their careers and it’s often easier as a result doing punditry work (certainly no shortage of ex player pundits)
    so why are there plenty of managers from overseas, I realise the PL might be one of the better-paid leaguess but given there's loads of Spanish, Itailan and German coachces, all of whom must have earnt a bob or two in their careers, your reply doesn't work?

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