There is some. I always find the unmute button hard to find on these things.Originally Posted by Mac76
There is some. I always find the unmute button hard to find on these things.
You're shitting me!
Arteta is not generally that much fun, I'd agree. He's no Ian Holloway.
But actually, I thought the above was quite funny. I guess he'd seen some of the fallout from his road-runner style exit last week, so was having a bit of a dig at himself. I thought he pulled it off.
There's disliking someone and there's being all Frank Grimes about it. You veer towards the latter at times with Arteta.
The irony of you citing Frank Grimes is that everything he said about Homer was 100% accurate. And that what he was more angry about was how people chose to ignore it
I wouldn’t make that claim in regards to Arteta, mine is just a sense I have from experiencing people in my life who I regard as totally insincere. I think Arteta being from what I can see not a people person isn’t the problem, it’s that smug condescending attitude (that I see massively in Pep G). The kind of person who would put a jumper on backwards and blame other people for not bringing it to his attention sooner.
I just think don’t be a dick when people ask you tough questions (take your medicine like a big boy) and then try and make a joke about it a week later.
I’ve read a lot about the Auba situation and from what I can tell, he took Auba aside and starting screaming at him for “betraying” him, should Auba have made him aware that he wasn’t going to be back a day later and acted like a professional as well as club captain? Totally for sure, he’s not blameless in this affair. But Arteta’s reaction was unhinged….and the only thing I can say is that I hope that he’s grown as a person in the 3+ years since then as that’s not a way to inspire loyalty and camaraderie.
This clip however was on the whole more to do with it just painfully unfunny and cringe
Which was my point, Grimey.
Other people I've sent it to found it funny. You're so blinded by irrational hatred of Arteta that all you see something different.
Because sure, Grimes was right about Homer but his reaction was still irrational. Homer was at worst stupid and lucky, not someone deserving of the level of antipathy Grimes had towards him.
Change the channel, Marge
The only thing Grimes actually does wrong is electrocuting himself. But the fact that Homer is affable at times, doesn’t change the fact that he’s dangerously incompetent as a safety inspector, is lazy and actually behaves in a way both harmful to himself and others (Grimes stops him from drinking a beaker of acid for heavens sakes)
But again this isn’t especially relevant, your supposition appears to be that I only find it cringe because it’s Arteta. No it’s cringe because it’s cringe, I think it’s redolent of Arteta that he would do something cringe in order to be funny but it could be someone I liked and I’d still find it cringe
Maybe it’s harsh but genuinely funny charismatic people are funny without even trying. If you don’t have it, don’t try it.
It’s all subjective at the end of the day, but this is far less cringe because it’s far more natural. Staring wild eyed at the camera with that Dr Teeth from the Muppets smile and laughing like a lunatic and genuinely seeming mystified about the question about an offside goal.
I agree in that I would like to see a more dynamic approach. It was interesting on Sunday to see Maresca's team (another Guardiola disciple) doing what we see Arteta's Arsenal do so often - horseshoe passes and then passing the ball back when high up the pitch - I don't think I can remember seeing us play another team quite as wedded to this possession obsessed game this season. But noteable also that (with both teams missing a striker/key forwards), we (1) looked a lot more threatening, and (2) mostly controlled and managed the game - almost completely taking Chelsea out of it. In doing so, I think we exemplified what Arteta is trying to do - exert such a stranglehold on games that we stifle the opposition. Chelsea were hardly up to much, but they have an expensively assembled team, and it was 2nd vs 4th but almost a non-contest.I'd prefer Arteta changed the system
Seriously if we are to really be winners he needs to:
- find a way to find a more quick-moving playing style that may at times cede a little more possession but overall lead to more space and more goals
- have more than one setup and way of playing - a Plan B
- stop trying to rely on the same small group of players in every game and adopt a far more tolerant approach to giving others some decent minutes, even if they don't immediately impress
- stop playing unsuited players at LB who can't defend
- focus transfer strategy on creative and attacking players
It won't happen obvs, he's too set in his ways, which is why I can't get excited about next season even if everyone is fit and we sign Isak, Arteta will find a way to have us come up short
We're stuck with the horseshoe until he goes
Like you say - Arteta is not going to change radically, but I am hoping that if we can retain second place with so many forward injuries, then some judicious forward additions over the Summer will see us able to kick on. I have mellowed a bit from a few weeks ago when I was gutted that we failed to maintain pressure on Liverpool, and still see this season as a wasted and self-inflicted failure to take advantage of a pretty poor EPL contest (also rue the fact that Liverpool's long-awaited running out of gas has come with them too far ahead to capitalise on). So I am now prepared to accept that the 'eye test' does not tell the whole story, and that our toothlessness is the result of a system that is dependent on all its cogs working rather than anything more than a more inherent issue.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
I've heard that the more Maresca has them playing his way the worse they're becoming, sure they're without Palmer, Madueke and Jackson but even before that they were already morphing into something more stodgy apparently, the results seem to reflect that.
https://metro.co.uk/2025/03/21/ricca...o=newsnow-feed
This guy really is made of paper.
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