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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    This piece seesaws a little but overall interesting to read. I hope he's wrong about Berta being completely subservient to Arteta, I'd been hoping that wouldn't be the case

    https://www.le-grove.co.uk/p/arsenal...-around-a-king
    Whilst he may have some good points, I don't necessarily agree that Berta is just gonna sit there and be a yes man to do Arteta's bidding.
    No doubt he would have some assurances in place that he will have some say over the future direction the club will take.
    Ultimately we want to win trophies and they have brought in, arguably, the best person to do that in terms of recruitment.

    I think the article is overly negative and dismissive of the pros this appointment will bring. The game has changed on the transfer front for us now.

    He also forgets to mention this (from the Athletic article)
    "It’s a testament to the attractiveness of Arsenal that even those candidates with concerns were prepared to explore the role."
    So, they were not completely put off the idea of working under Arteta.
    I also don't agree that a Sporting Director that is in charge of everything (including the manager) is the defacto, correct way to go about things either.
    It's a 'it's not right or wrong' thing for me.
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    Yeah all fair, and I don't think it's a very consistent article but then it's just a fan thing

    tbh I've only just been able to read the Athletic article itself

    that said if it's true other candidates were put off by the level of Arteta's involvement with selection then that's maybe a concern

    I'm not sure where I am whether a DOF should be fully above the coach but at the very least they should be equals
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    Anyway I see we're playing Spuds in a 'friendly' in Hong Kong this summer - I'd prefer it if we were playing a team of some kind of decent standing but there you go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Yeah all fair, and I don't think it's a very consistent article but then it's just a fan thing

    tbh I've only just been able to read the Athletic article itself

    that said if it's true other candidates were put off by the level of Arteta's involvement with selection then that's maybe a concern

    I'm not sure where I am whether a DOF should be fully above the coach but at the very least they should be equals
    I agree

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    24 years since Rocky passed.
    How the utter fuck is it that long?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Anyway I see we're playing Spuds in a 'friendly' in Hong Kong this summer - I'd prefer it if we were playing a team of some kind of decent standing but there you go...
    They're not even trying to hide any more that pre-season these days isn't about preparing for the new season, they're now nothing more then exercises in building fanbase and therefore generating income from various far-flung parts of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    They're not even trying to hide any more that pre-season these days isn't about preparing for the new season, they're now nothing more then exercises in building fanbase and therefore generating income from various far-flung parts of the world.
    It’s also nothing new, I think Wenger fought against it somewhat and that’s why for years we seemed to always have our pre-season in some obscure part of Austria.

    But even under George Graham there were pre-season tours of the far east. Even then shirt sales and building a global fanbase was a thing….the addition was that it was also something of a holiday for the players to allow them to “let their hair down”.

    But no such luck for current crop, I’m not saying making racial slurs to Thai hookers is a particularly nice thing to do….but I felt the reaction to the Leicester City pre season tour was over the top given that although prostitution is technically illegal it’s also a massive booming industry that operates in the grey area of the law.

    Again not saying Arsenal players should be indulging in this vice, I’m just saying that a club of Arsenal’s standing means that every minute of the players time will be taken up either training, playing matches or doing some kind of highly scripted fan outreach

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    We were behind the curve for a decade with these tours because of Wenger stubbornly refusing to budge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    We were behind the curve for a decade with these tours because of Wenger stubbornly refusing to budge.
    I remember at the time thinking he was being stubborn, now? I kind of think he was right

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