I never want Spuds to win anything ever, neither do I ever enjoy us playing them (until after the final whistle if we've won)
The only thing that will be is funny is their being relegated, or even better disbanded and the Toilet Bowl turned into a sewage works
I don’t think any of us want them to win anything, the point is more that if we won the European Cup…I wouldn’t give a shit about their Europa league win (I don’t think they will win it)
Don’t agree about wanting them relegated, the north london derby is a special fixture and wouldn’t be without it (even for a season), same with St Totteringham’s day.
Disappointed that they got through against Frankfurt but I really just don’t think about that club that much.
I didn't think of thatOriginally Posted by Marc Overmars
Obviously want Spurs out ASAP but if we won the CL, literally nothing can piss on that bonfire. It’s the pinnacle of club football.
If anything, we could piss on their bonfire and it would actually be the most Spurs thing ever. They finally win a trophy at the same time we win the CL.
That would be brilliant!
It is the opposite of 2019 when we got to the Europa league final and they got to the CL final. That was the longest week of my life
@hcz, if Spuds went down we'd still have St T's Day, it would just be on the first day of the season
And I hate the NLD, just want to get it over with, plus I don't agree with the whole rivals thing, our rivals are big clubs like Citeh, Liverpool etc, Spuds are an irrelevance, it's only the delusion of their fans and the media that they're a 'big club'
It’s an opinion, I would probably suggest it’s not a widely held one amongst the Arsenal fan base. That and you speak to the old Arsenal legends and they would say how when the fixture list was published that the first fixture they’d look for was the NLD, that and they would teach the young foreign players the importance of the rivalry and local bragging rights.
I think about it in the following way. If I didn’t support Arsenal I wouldn’t give a tuppeny fuck about Spurs one way or the other. I think even if we lose to Spurs or they finish above us one season it’s disappointing but it won’t ultimately matter because I think we will always be the bigger club, and actually it’s a form of flattery that they’ve tried to emulate us and hilarious that they’ve failed.
But beyond the rivalry, I don’t hate them…I consider their existence as a club invaluable because it’s part of what makes Arsenal unique. I feel the same way you do about Spurs about Chelsea, I think they are a scumbag club full of scumbag fans and the last trophy they came about honestly was the Fa cup in 2000.
I’d like to see them and City scattered to the winds and I don’t think football would be any worse off for it.
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Really good post.
I am an old fart (58) and the NLD brings back mixed memories (being at WHL when we lost 5-0 and 1-0 in the FA cup 3rd round in 82?) added to that was the agro with their fans in and outside the ground. My point is, I will always hate them with a passion. I would actually love them to be relegated and go out of business
Maybe it is a relative age thing. I’m 41, I’m not a constant match goer and I’ve only ever been to the one NLD. There’s banter and chanting, and the fans were seperated from each other probably quite wisely. But I tend to think anyone Spurs or Arsenal who turns violent against another set of fans for any reason other than self defence is a cunt….and I’m glad that the days of fans kicking the shit out of each other is in many respects a thing of the past. I can accept of course that had I been set upon by Spurs fans I’d be rather resentful of them and their club. But my experience of Spurs fans is somewhat different, over the years I’ve probably known more Spurs fans than Arsenal ones. We had our banter when the NLD came about and if you won you would crow, and if you lost you’d have to accept it back in your direction but certainly never fell out with anyone over it.Really good post.
I am an old fart (58) and the NLD brings back mixed memories (being at WHL when we lost 5-0 and 1-0 in the FA cup 3rd round in 82?) added to that was the agro with their fans in and outside the ground. My point is, I will always hate them with a passion. I would actually love them to be relegated and go out of business
Us singing We Hate Tottenham on match days is for me an important part of the club culture and I think it would be diminished without them in the premier league. Singing “Are you Tottenham in disguise?” At Real Madrid was especially delicious.
I think in sport you are defined not just by your achievements but your rivalries. So whilst I understand what you’re saying….i wouldn’t be without Spurs…their existence pushes us.
You make some really good points there.
Things are indeed very different with the fans and violence these days (thank god). As a 15 year old visiting their ground was scary and crapping myself when they got into the North Bank at Highbury was just as bad. I should move on, but old habits die hard, lol.
They've some really nasty fans for sure, and the ones who aren't nasty are just plain pathetic, thinking they should be winning things as though they're entitled in some way
Would it surprise you to learn that the same has been said about our fans? (Especially the entitled thing)
Every fan base has its share of absolute pieces of shit.
I would have to say that in the past neither Arsenal or Spurs have really had fans associated with the far right for instance (although we did have Osama Bin Laden amongst our number) can’t say the same for Chelsea
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