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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I think the fans simply came in expectant and much like the team, were rather shell shocked after the early goal and couldn’t raise it once it became apparent PSG had full control. We haven’t demonstrated much in terms of powers of recovery this season, when we go a goal down it usually means we aren’t going to win.
    That is also true

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    Which were both well saved. Shearer, who knows a thing or two about scoring goals, praised the 'keeper. There was no suggestion from him that they were weak shots.


    Yeah, they "wrecked" them 3-2, having lost 3-1 away. You know PSG went through from that tie, right? That's why it's us against PSG, not Villa
    I do think though, that the forwards need to learn to chip the ball when 1v1 with the keeper.

    Martinelli too. you aren't always going to curl it round into the corner, when you see the keeper going down then just lift it up over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    I do think though, that the forwards need to learn to chip the ball when 1v1 with the keeper.

    Martinelli too. you aren't always going to curl it round into the corner, when you see the keeper going down then just lift it up over him.
    IIRC Martinelli use to do that a lot in his early days.

    Carlos Vela was a player we had that never failed to take that opportunity to do it, in fact it was a bit excessive from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Not sure how you can say their style of play suits us because for large parts of the game we couldn’t even get the ball off them. Partey in the second leg should improve us but overall I feel like we are just going to be huffing and puffing and they will probably go and score a goal or two in transitions.

    It’s not impossible but based on this game they are a much better team than us.

    Crazy things can happen though in the CL and hopefully we are able to settle quickly out there. Villa cranked it up a notch and they wobbled, so the pressure is all on them to see this out. Can’t remember us turning around many first leg deficits though it has to be said, would be our greatest CL night ever if we did.
    Yesterday's game marked the first time this season that we'd lose to a team that had more possession than us.

    The 4 times we've played teams that have more quality than us ( 2 games against Citeh, 2 games against Madrid), we lost none of those games despite lossing the possession stats in 3 of those games. In fact, if not for the red card, I'm pretty certain we'd have beaten Citeh twice this season and have a 100% record against opposition that are better than us and come out.

    Yes, HCZ seems to think PSG will just sit back and defend in Paris, but PSG cannot help but play in a certain way, especially in front of their fans. They will dominate the possession stats and come at us. I always felt the 2nd leg would be key for us because I expected PSG to bring the game to us in Paris, which they still have to with this slim margin.

    If we stick to what we do best, we beat this PSG team 8 times in every 10 games, as they play to our strengths.

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    I don’t think they’ll just sit back and defend, but they absolutely won’t leave any space for us to exploit and the game will resemble the second half last night. Like a damp towel over a pan fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Which were both well saved. Shearer, who knows a thing or two about scoring goals, praised the 'keeper. There was no suggestion from him that they were weak shots.


    Yeah, they "wrecked" them 3-2, having lost 3-1 away. You know PSG went through from that tie, right? That's why it's us against PSG, not Villa
    Oh, you mean we weren't playing Villa last night?

    Now, being the decent Christian you are, I've dismissed the notion you'd be trying to score cheap internet points with your response. So you must genuinely believe by "wrecked" I forgot PSG won and thought we were playing Villa last night. Correct?

    Whereas, in fact, by wrecked I meant cut through their defence like butter and smashed in 3 goals.

    Next time I'll say, I hope we beat PSG in the next leg (and it won't be Villa we are playing in that match). Will that help you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    It clearly didn’t count for PSG tonight

    As I keep saying it’s not an either or. This season momentum has meant fuck all to us because we’ve never had any. We’ve got to the semi finals despite never winning more than three league games in a row all season.

    Momentum can be very important of course in football. What I’m dismissing is the false binary that it’s either always important or never important. And this season, it’s been largely peripheral for us.

    The most obvious factors in tonight’s defeat were missing Partey and PSG making us behave like a load of cowards when it came to 50/50 balls. We could have pulverised Palace and that would have still been a problem for us tonight
    That's an interesting take. The ref played a huge part in taking the edge out of the game and giving PSG the time and space they needed. He also ensured their constant fouling went mainly unpunished while booking our players for nothing. Several PSG players should have had reds for accumulated yellows. Personally I don't believe there should have been any yellows and that 90% of the play should have been waved on - fairly of course, not in the way the corrupt ref did it last night. But he set the standard and by that standard there should have been 20-30 bookings.

    This active style of reffing can have a big influence on a game, and it did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    I am unsure why you are all this pessimistic.

    From what I see, their style of play suits us and as long as we don't have injuries and Arteta does a 360 and gets them to take the league seriously (which we always had to anyway), I think we will be ok in Paris.
    Should have beaten them last night, if we cut out the BS and get stuck into them in Paris they'll crumble. PSG have a good midfield but their defence is lousy. Put our shooting boots on and we could fill them.

    Concerned about the ref though. Twice now we've had refs that actively came out to influence the result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    That's an interesting take. The ref played a huge part in taking the edge out of the game and giving PSG the time and space they needed. He also ensured their constant fouling went mainly unpunished while booking our players for nothing. Several PSG players should have had reds for accumulated yellows. Personally I don't believe there should have been any yellows and that 90% of the play should have been waved on - fairly of course, not in the way the corrupt ref did it last night. But he set the standard and by that standard there should have been 20-30 bookings.

    This active style of reffing can have a big influence on a game, and it did.
    Yeah the ref was bad and def not on our side

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    I think he was just weak, set a dangerous precedent for himself early on that he could never properly or consistently enforce

    Think he gave them silly yellow cards for nothing as well

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