Champions League 24/25

[HCZ_Reborn]

I must admit I’m fond of some of the racial epithets and homophobic comments, used to call a gay bloke I worked for the same company as “me old poofter” (though not it should be said in the office). Went out drinking with him on more than one occasion.

I think it’s the absurdism I love, that somehow your skin colour or what you as a consenting adult get up to with another consenting adult should in anyway matter.

I think making certain words forbidden makes them strangely more enticing. And ironically it gives them more power

But equally I do understand why the language was clearly meant to be derogatory and demeaning so I’d never direct the words to someone unless we knew each other well enough to know that I meant no harm by it. I don’t think words are objectively harmful, but they obviously do create associations in the minds of people who have been slurred and made to feel inferior by others

Maybe, as a child of the 90s I think we had it best where such words weren’t outright forbidden, but we allowed people who liked to use them liberally to expose themselves

[HCZ_Reborn]

NQ seems very preoccupied with the mechanics of gay sex. You get that a lot in Ugandan homophobic literature, remember reading a news article about a “notorious bum driller”

[Mac76]

I must admit I’m fond of some of the racial epithets and homophobic comments, used to call a gay bloke I worked for the same company as “me old poofter”

Thing is, i feel like there was, maybe in the 70s, an alternative non-homophobic meaning of the word 'poof' which was someone who was a bit soft in general - i recall you called Odegaard that once and I took it to be what you meant, though feel free to correct me (on this one occasion ofc )

or maybe it always meant gay but I was too young to realise

[Mac76]

And more seriously (and this is where I'll play into the stereotype some of you have mistakenly cast me as), I doubt the same fondness is felt by the majority of people on the other side of the comments, even if they laughed and smiled at the time and everyone thought they 'didn't mind'

[Letters]

I fell down a YouTube rabbithole recently - some bloke looking back at 80s TV and taking the piss out of it in a sarcastic way which made me laugh a lot.
Looking back, it was mostly pretty rubbish. A lot of the comedy has not stood up well. Often the joke is "aren't Chinese people's eyes funny" or "Listen to how Indian people speak - bud bud, ding ding!" or "Don't gay people talk and mince around in a funny way?"...and so on.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Thing is, i feel like there was, maybe in the 70s, an alternative non-homophobic meaning of the word 'poof' which was someone who was a bit soft in general - i recall you called Odegaard that once and I took it to be what you meant, though feel free to correct me (on this one occasion ofc )

or maybe it always meant gay but I was too young to realise

Could be related to pouffe the French word for the comfy bit of soft furniture to rest your feet on

But yes generally poof went beyond a derogatory term for homosexual, and meant someone who was soft/effeminate which has always been associated with being gay. Which is kind of funny as many gay men are body builders who are built like brick shit houses

[HCZ_Reborn]

And more seriously (and this is where I'll play into the stereotype some of you have mistakenly cast me as), I doubt the same fondness is felt by the majority of people on the other side of the comments, even if they laughed and smiled at the time and everyone thought they 'didn't mind'

Oh I think that’s true as well, laughing along with the joke to fit in rather than because you don’t mind

But equally a lot of gay men use words like poof, queen and queer about themselves and other gay men

[Mac76]

Oh I think that’s true as well, laughing along with the joke to fit in rather than because you don’t mind

But equally a lot of gay men use words like poof, queen and queer about themselves and other gay men

yeah I guess that's like black men using the 'N' word or lesbians calling themselves dykes - I think part of it is to de-weaponise the words - people can make their own minds up if they think it works

[HCZ_Reborn]

I fell down a YouTube rabbithole recently - some bloke looking back at 80s TV and taking the piss out of it in a sarcastic way which made me laugh a lot.
Looking back, it was mostly pretty rubbish. A lot of the comedy has not stood up well. Often the joke is "aren't Chinese people's eyes funny" or "Listen to how Indian people speak - bud bud, ding ding!" or "Don't gay people talk and mince around in a funny way?"...and so on.

Absolutely, just because you’re not handwringing about offending people it doesn’t mean something is going to be funny.

The comedy from back then that survived (stuff like Porridge) because first and foremost it was well written and in Ronnie Barker had one of the best comedy actors of a generation


I must admit I did always like Dick Emery’s Clarence the mincing gay man and I do find it funny

Went through a phase of saying to mates “oh hello Honky Tonks”

[Mac76]

I fell down a YouTube rabbithole recently - some bloke looking back at 80s TV and taking the piss out of it in a sarcastic way which made me laugh a lot.
Looking back, it was mostly pretty rubbish. A lot of the comedy has not stood up well. Often the joke is "aren't Chinese people's eyes funny" or "Listen to how Indian people speak - bud bud, ding ding!" or "Don't gay people talk and mince around in a funny way?"...and so on.

totally, I've sometimes watching things i recall being funny but now they're absolutely dreadful on every level

mind you there was some stuff I even hated as a kid - I mean Frank Spencer - wtf was funny about that? It was f****** tragic in every sense, whether you bought into it or not