We could get Gyokores and Delap for the same price as Sesko.
Imagine that.
We could get Gyokores and Delap for the same price as Sesko.
Imagine that.
Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club
1) I compared him to Darwin Nunez because they have similar attributes
2) A player that is a highly rated youngster and has scored double figures back to back in the Bundesliga, is no more of a risk than a player who is 27 and has not played at any higher level than the Portuguese League. You don’t have to agree, but this insistence that Gyokeres is a dead cert just makes no sense to me
3) Sesko is more of a natural no9 than Gyokeres in terms of attributes, Gyokeres is a player that exploits existing space. Sesko is one that works well in very little space. We have too many players without a great first touch who need the time and space that you don’t get in the premier league.
Let Man United sign Gyokeres….for all the good he will do them
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 30-05-2025 at 02:25 PM.
There is really only one reason we are choosing Sesko over Gyokeres, and that's due to his age and imagined unfulfilled potential.
Its the same story carried over from the AW days, though at least then, most of the time we weren't paying top dollar for potential, though we always prioritised them in our first team.
What does it say about a manager, if he knows that he came close to achieving all his dreams this season but failed only because he stuck his middle finger out at the world who pointed out to him he needed goals and a striker.
Yet the same man is ready to gamble most of our transfer budget, on a "project" again and not the finished article. Why TF are we saddled with these selfish clowns that can't sacrifice just a bit of their ego to do the "needed" thing at the right time.
Sesko is a great player. Clearly talented and beautiful to watch at full flow. But so is Jesus!! I mean it's clear as day that what we we need is goals/results and not a younger Jesus. Not another Martinelli. Not another Odegaard ..... fucking results and the finished article, simple.
If Arteta took any of us, or should I say "this" seriously, he'd be going for two strikers and nothing less. The same way AW betrayed his principles and splurged for Lacazette and Auba within a year. But it was too late, the damage had been done after years of ignoring the fans and insisting their was no value in winning things any other way but his way and by his principles.
To think we are repeating the same mistake and allowing ourselves to be part of another egotrip, but this time of a Rookie who has won nothing major after 5 years and seizes us by the balls insisting his saga must be written in his own terms.
Imagine, we're going to pay almost double the price Citeh paid for Halaand for "potential" and a goal evey 3 games! Just imagine!
Last edited by 21_GOONER_SALUTE; 30-05-2025 at 02:49 PM.
Sure If you’re running with the 93 million figure being bandied around (it’s 67 million)
If Arteta took any of us seriously, I’d have far less respect for him than I already do. None of us (including me) have the slightest inkling of what it takes to coach/manage a football team. We are a bunch of irritable middle aged armchair commentators
However I don’t disagree with you re: two strikers. But to be honest in a modern game which has made strikers almost passe, what I’d like is someone with goalscoring pedigree in this league who can play up front or wide. That’s why I think we should target Mbeumo.
I have agreed with you before on Mbuemo, he's the best choice from the EPL if you are not going to go all crazy and be held to hostage by Newcastle chasing Isak.
Two strikers, is extremely important, and I do think Sesko is a true talent. But in no way do I believe he is a talent worth sacrificing getting immediate results and winning something next season which I believe Gyokores superior experience and ability to actually play in the box and be relentless with that will achieve.
Their is something on Youtube where they do comparisons of players by looking at their last 40 shots/headers.Sesko scores the better goals and has that Laca kind of shot power....but Gyokeres is varied and always almost gets into the box.
Experience counts and this is something me and you have always disagreed about.
Last edited by 21_GOONER_SALUTE; 30-05-2025 at 03:22 PM.
Oh I don’t necessarily disagree with you about experience, in that I don’t dismiss its value. But as I keep saying to the other guy. I think half the problem is Gyokeres is incredibly inexperienced at top level football for his age given the level of football he’s been playing in
What I think you’re getting at is that I’m wary of signing any player over the age of 25 for big money. And I’d absolutely stick by that. I think older players are more sticking plaster solutions
Trossard and Jorginho were good signings (although I wasn’t happy with us signing Trossard at the time) because they were relatively inexpensive and yes had experience and ultimately you don’t envisage them being at the club for more than a few years. But if you’re talking about building a dynasty rather than just instant mash success which in many ways makes it if anything harder to replicate that success, you want younger players that you can mould.
BTW, Henry thinks we should go for Julian Alvarez, and TBH his last 40 (or was it 80 shots) video I saw was quite remarkable. Happy to see Pep proved wrong again by one of his former players, even if he got the last laugh with us with the Jesus and Zinchenko deal
I wouldn’t mind Alvarez additional to Sesko
Well fair enough. Having reservations paying big money for players over 25 does make sense, however you cannot deny their are a lot of late bloomers who turn out to be exceptional.. and TBH most of the best strikers in the world have usually fallen in that category, especially if we go far back.
I personally think we have a track record of always chasing potential and usually getting it wrong. So I struggle to see why we are not learning from this especially as paying top dollar for proven experience like Partey and Rice recently have been shown to be good business.
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