Summer Transfers 2025 Missed Opportunities and Regrets

[Letters]

Utd have announced an agreement to sign Cunha - but that can't be possible according to you.

I literally said in the post you are replying to: "I'm sure there are examples where that happens".

I'm not the only one who remembers Zubi deal being announced, its all over socials

Socials
The bastion of truth. Behave yourself.

What is the point of this thread if we can't make conversation??

That's what we are doing now, isn't it? We just have different views. I don't think you're being realistic, you think I'm being too patient.
We see this play out during a season when people lose their shit over every poor result, I tend to take a longer term view.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I literally said in the post you are replying to: "I'm sure there are examples where that happens".

And I provided one that happened yesterday and I was specifically responding to your statement:

"well other clubs just go out and buy players" to which I'm going to respond "no they don't"

But yet, they do it seems.

Socials
The bastion of truth. Behave yourself.

Where do you think it came from originally - thats right, the media not socials.
Here you are:

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...-in-the-summer

Arsenal transfers: Gunners closing in on deal to sign Martin Zubimendi from Real Sociedad in the summer - Tuesday 14 January 2025 22:20, UK

This was right around season ticket renewal time as I remember people commenting it was the usual club ploy to get them signed up.

That's what we are doing now, isn't it? We just have different views. I don't think you're being realistic, you think I'm being too patient.
We see this play out during a season when people lose their shit over every poor result, I tend to take a longer term view.

I'm a patient man, I have no issue with waiting for us to get all our business done over the course of a summer.
However, we were led to believe by the club that some deals are already tied up, some are going to be tied up quickly and some are still in limbo.

I would have expected to have seen an announcement of something concrete by now (yes even though the window has just opened).

We all know a striker is no.1 priority (two if it were me in charge) and it seems we are still deciding which one we want.

[Letters]

However, we were led to believe by the club that some deals are already tied up, some are going to be tied up quickly.

Were we?
The link you provided contained no quotes from the club at all.
You know that a lot of this stuff is made up or, at best, speculation?
I was watching "The Rest is Entertainment" podcast some weeks back and they were noting how "a source close to..." is always just completely made up.
Things will be announced when they are announced. There are some positive noises and I doubt those things are completely baseless. But these things are generally complicated with lots of moving parts.

[HCZ_Reborn]

What is the point of this thread if we can't make conversation??

This is what I was a bit confused by yesterday, that you see disagreement with your despair (or a lack of shared despair if you will) as an attempt to close you down.

You’ve explained why you think it’s not precipitous, and whilst I can’t say I’m particularly convinced…I’d say that in itself is conversational

[KSE Comedy Club]

Were we?
The link you provided contained no quotes from the club at all.
You know that a lot of this stuff is made up or, at best, speculation?
I was watching "The Rest is Entertainment" podcast some weeks back and they were noting how "a source close to..." is always just completely made up.
Things will be announced when they are announced. There are some positive noises and I doubt those things are completely baseless. But these things are generally complicated with lots of moving parts.

Yes no doubt sometimes that is true, but there is also no doubt that sometimes there are people with official sources that do know things as well.

Well we may as well close this thread then as there is nothing worth talking about until an official announcement

[KSE Comedy Club]

This is what I was a bit confused by yesterday, that you see disagreement with your despair (or a lack of shared despair if you will) as an attempt to close you down.

You’ve explained why you think it’s not precipitous, and whilst I can’t say I’m particularly convinced…I’d say that in itself is conversational

This is a thread to discuss transfer news, yes?

So I initially stated that we had signed no one and there was one player likely to leave, which was met with push back. You specifically saying you were not going to "start bitching and whining before August"

Ok, that's cool, but I personally believe we should be getting business done long before that, for pre-season purposes mainly and to tie up our targets before other clubs come sniffing around.

Now Letters seems to think that because the window has only just opened, no business can possibly be done without it taking weeks.
Whereas that is somewhat true, it seems that WE take weeks to get anything done, as other clubs announce signings in much shorter spaces of time.

Ultimately, it seems as though me saying 'we haven't signed anyone yet' has created this air that I am somehow over reacting or being ridiculous to think that we have a plan and work on our targets was initiated before the window opened.

[HCZ_Reborn]

The Zubimendi deal is barring hijacking all done with, the papers like to entice readership by claiming that hijacking could be in progress. Alonso was interested in Zubimendi but Real Madrid politely reminded him that he has no say over transfers.

Within reason, it doesn’t matter if it’s announced today or on July 1st.

I would imagine personal terms are all agreed, and possibly the only thing left to resolve is the structure of payments

I would imagine it’s a similar situation with Sesko (although I read that we still have Gyokeres in the rear view mirror in case the deal for Sesko ends up being too expensive, though I find it curious how for such an obviously top striker there hasn’t been anyone so far who has come in to snatch him up)


Liverpool moved quickly with Frimpong because there was acrimony over the departure of TAA and they were trying their best to fill that position as quick as possible, so wouldn’t exactly say they’ve strengthened. I think the Wirz move might not happen because Leverkusen are demanding more than Liverpool are willing to pay


What Man United do in the transfer market doesn’t bother me because they are such a hot mess. I think they really need to go back to the drawing board, but they seem to be adopting our transfer strategy from six years ago where making one or two signings will get them where they want to be. When in fact the whole team is dysfunctional and I think Amorim was a flavour of the month coach who is horrendously out of his depth.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Day 3 of the transfer window:

No. of signings - 0
Players likely to leave - 1

[HCZ_Reborn]

This is a thread to discuss transfer news, yes?

So I initially stated that we had signed no one and there was one player likely to leave, which was met with push back. You specifically saying you were not going to "start bitching and whining before August"

Ok, that's cool, but I personally believe we should be getting business done long before that, for pre-season purposes mainly and to tie up our targets before other clubs come sniffing around.

Now Letters seems to think that because the window has only just opened, no business can possibly be done without it taking weeks.
Whereas that is somewhat true, it seems that WE take weeks to get anything done, as other clubs announce signings in much shorter spaces of time.

Ultimately, it seems as though me saying 'we haven't signed anyone yet' has created this air that I am somehow over reacting or being ridiculous to think that we have a plan and work on our targets was initiated before the window opened.

I think he’s suggesting your despairing tone is a tad over the top, and that whilst yes it’s entirely possible to have a signing done this early. The fact that we haven’t made a signing yet doesn’t suggest we aren’t acting with urgency. You can at least see that right?

[KSE Comedy Club]

The Zubimendi deal is barring hijacking all done with, the papers like to entice readership by claiming that hijacking could be in progress. Alonso was interested in Zubimendi but Real Madrid politely reminded him that he has no say over transfers.

Within reason, it doesn’t matter if it’s announced today or on July 1st.

I would imagine personal terms are all agreed, and possibly the only thing left to resolve is the structure of payments

I would imagine it’s a similar situation with Sesko (although I read that we still have Gyokeres in the rear view mirror in case the deal for Sesko ends up being too expensive, though I find it curious how for such an obviously top striker there hasn’t been anyone so far who has come in to snatch him up)


Liverpool moved quickly with Frimpong because there was acrimony over the departure of TAA and they were trying their best to fill that position as quick as possible, so wouldn’t exactly say they’ve strengthened. I think the Wirz move might not happen because Leverkusen are demanding more than Liverpool are willing to pay


What Man United do in the transfer market doesn’t bother me because they are such a hot mess. I think they really need to go back to the drawing board, but they seem to be adopting our transfer strategy from six years ago where making one or two signings will get them where they want to be. When in fact the whole team is dysfunctional and I think Amorim was a flavour of the month coach who is horrendously out of his depth.

But again, Liverpool had a position they needed to fill / strengthen and they have managed it within two days. They have also put in two offers now for Wirz, so they are showing their intent to strengthen and get players in the position they need.

If we have Zubi deal sorted, then why not just make it official? what is this incessant need with us, to draw things out for so long?

It's not about what Man Utd are doing per se, more that they are doing things quickly.

This is three fold:
1. it gets the targets they want.
2. it stops other clubs coming in and creating a bidding war.
3. it shows decisive intent.

Look what happened with Mudryk for example. Now yes, he turned out to be bang average and a bit of a greedy tosser by all accounts - but he was the player Arteta & Edu wanted.

We courted him for the entire window, dithered back & forth about the fee and how the payments would be structured, only for the chavs to come in and snatch him away within a week.

Circumstances aside, that is one of the reasons why I think we need to do our business much more quickly and efficiently.