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Thread: Summer Transfers 2025 Missed Opportunities and Regrets

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazthegooner View Post
    Maybe Liverpool are trying the Chelsea method buy everything that moves then see what happens
    or we could call it making your mind up, getting on with your most important transfer business and being ready for the pre-season

    Every day we vacillate over Gyokeres/Sesko increases the chances of our getting neither, Gyokeres has burnt his boats at his club and if he starts giving up on Arsenal he'll I'm sure see Liverpool as a suitable alternative

    If he does then Berta's game-playing will backfire as RB will be able to name their price and we'll either have to pay it or at best get Watkins (not a disaster IMO but not the ideal either)

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    I'd be shocked if we went for Gyokeres, he doesn't fit the type of player we have been going for at all (he's theoretically reaching/at his peak, and there would be a low chance of selling on value)

    As much as I'd love Isak I can't see how that happens either. We probably could afford him but I can't see why Newcastle would sell and I also can't see us getting two marquee signings at once. We will be in for a forward but I think it will be someone who can play across the front line and no older than 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss View Post
    I'd be shocked if we went for Gyokeres, he doesn't fit the type of player we have been going for at all (he's theoretically reaching/at his peak, and there would be a low chance of selling on value)

    As much as I'd love Isak I can't see how that happens either. We probably could afford him but I can't see why Newcastle would sell and I also can't see us getting two marquee signings at once. We will be in for a forward but I think it will be someone who can play across the front line and no older than 25.
    No I agree, plus you could argue that Liverpool already had their fingers burnt signing a striker who plays in Portuguese league


    If I was Liverpool I’d be looking first and foremost at a centre back, Van Dijk is 34 and you are vulnerable at the back when he doesn’t play. You’ve replaced AA and I’m guessing Kerkez is a long term replacement for Robertson?

    But a top centre half (which precludes Mark Guehi in my view) would be your priority

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss View Post
    I'd be shocked if we went for Gyokeres, he doesn't fit the type of player we have been going for at all (he's theoretically reaching/at his peak, and there would be a low chance of selling on value)
    That sounds similar to the issue at Arsenal, where a good proportion of the fans think we should make a hire for the 'here and now' and bugger the resale value, on the basis that the added success/money that brings would more than counteract lower resale revenue

    As you've probably seen, I gave Liverpool more credit than most on here for what they achieved last season and think they were underrated, but equally you do need to beef things up to see if you can retain the title and regain the CL.

    So if I'm Liverpool I'm Gyokeres all the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I see him as Jorginho’s replacement really. An older head with a bit of leadership and experience.

    Zubimendi is the Partey replacement.

    Can we please get on with the striker search now.
    Exactly this.

    He is an experienced prem player at least and I think most Brentford players are fairly decent tbh.

    I'm glad we have been decisive at replacing Partey with a fairly solid & cheap option, meaning we can carry on with our 'set the prem alight' sigings that we need in attack
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Pretty speechless TBH.

    It seems when their is a pretty cheap deal for a player no one is after we are then able to work at breathtaking pace.

    As for the player, it all about the physicality like you pointed out. Good in the air and ok passer, a pretty safe squad player.

    Do I think the £10m we are spending to acquire him and the 4 year contract in wages makes more sense than keeping Partey 2-3 years or going after someone younger....hell no!

    It really is funny how this summer has panned out so far... Liverpool inadvertently won the league and are now making a conscious effort to defend their title by going the extra mile and bringing in players like Wirtz and chasing an Isak, basically going haywire and far above everyone's expectations (like Fergie use to do).....while we, who everyone expected to win it last year are signing Norgaards, Kepas and Zubis.....you really couldn't make this shit up.
    I'm not entirely unconvinced that Partey is better than Zubimendi tbh.

    Most analysis I've heard, from people that actually watch La Liga and know what he is capable of, suggest he is a very good DM.

    I'm kind of glad we have parted ways with Partey tbh, we only got one good full season out of him so I don't think he was worth another 2-3 years on higher wages.
    Then there is that lingering personal issue he has....... good to cut ties IMO.

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    I think it was sensible to offer Partey an extension given the season he had with us, but I suspect we weren’t going to be able to guarantee him first team football and that I think as much as anything influenced his decision (also quite likely length of contract as well).
    My only objection to Norgaard as a signing is that we clearly didn’t need a defensive midfielder as we had cover

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    We had Partey for 5 years and didn’t win anything with him and prior to this season he wasn’t exactly reliable in terms of fitness either. He is a very good player on his day but I feel like his time here came to its natural conclusion. We aren’t going to offer big contracts to players into their 30’s and I’m sure he would have been seeking something significant because it’s probably his last contract at the top level.

    Of course there is a lot of pressure on Zubimendi to hit the ground running but I guess we’ve just got to have some faith that we haven’t signed some lightweight dud and rather signed Rodri MKII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    I'm not entirely unconvinced that Partey is better than Zubimendi tbh.

    Most analysis I've heard, from people that actually watch La Liga and know what he is capable of, suggest he is a very good DM.

    I'm kind of glad we have parted ways with Partey tbh, we only got one good full season out of him so I don't think he was worth another 2-3 years on higher wages.
    Then there is that lingering personal issue he has....... good to cut ties IMO.
    I think it's sensible to offload Partey for footbalilng reasons, because while he was good last season there's nothing to say his injury problems wouldn't arise again and that would make him another Tomi/Jesus - we've enough crocks already

    I like the look of Zubi, he doesn't seem as injury-prone and it would be good to freshen things up

    As for 'other issues' with Partey, nothing has been proven in a court of law and he remains a free citizen, which means it's not Arsenal's problem

    It's worth noting Partey himself doesn't seem keen to leave the country, you'd think he would if he thought he was in real jeopardy (and yes I know there are international agreements over such matters but still) - also he's been getting regular chants from opposition fans which equally doesn't seem to bother him

    All of that said, I agree it would be best to make a fresh start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    or we could call it making your mind up, getting on with your most important transfer business and being ready for the pre-season

    Every day we vacillate over Gyokeres/Sesko increases the chances of our getting neither, Gyokeres has burnt his boats at his club and if he starts giving up on Arsenal he'll I'm sure see Liverpool as a suitable alternative

    If he does then Berta's game-playing will backfire as RB will be able to name their price and we'll either have to pay it or at best get Watkins (not a disaster IMO but not the ideal either)
    If we end up with Watkins then 3rd place beckons this season (if we are lucky).

    That would be a striker to help finish in the top 4.

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