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Thread: Summer Transfers 2025 Missed Opportunities and Regrets

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Why?
    I’m guessing it’s to do with the transfer fee.

    If sporting don’t have to pay him that 2m then we can pay less of a fee - (I would assume)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    I’m guessing it’s to do with the transfer fee.

    If sporting don’t have to pay him that 2m then we can pay less of a fee - (I would assume)
    No I mean why does wanting to come to us merit any respect. I’m sure loads of players would sell their soul to play for us. Plus he will probably get a jump in wages

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post

    I get things wrong, Letters for example pointed out that mosques and Muslim faith schools were getting lots of money spent on their security when I thought this was purely the case for Jewish schools and synagogues .
    it was actually me that pointed that out, Letters just concurred

    so wrong again

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    We can't just promise Nwaneri infinite minutes, in fact you can't promise any player that. He got plenty of game time last season as a 17 year old so there is no reason to think he won't get a fair bit of game time this season now he has a season of experience under his belt.

    Nwaneri's agent always gives us the run around, similar things happened when he signed his first contract a year or so back. From what I've read Nwaneri wants to stay so it will be just a case of giving him the deal and development required to get him signed. I don't think for one minute the club will allow him to leave, he is a top top talent already and obviously homegrown.
    What bothers me is that Arteta never used to have a problem with lying to players over how much game time they'd get, it's petty clear that people like ESR, Nelson were lied to and tbh I suspect Trossard only got more because he forced his way into the team and was maybe helped at the beginning by injury

    So if Arteta isn't going to those lengths with Nwaneri, does he secretly not rate him and think he can sell him to balance out the incoming players?

    If so, he's underestimating the outrage from fans if he does, but then his remarks about Partey in May show he can be pretty tone deaf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    it was actually me that pointed that out, Letters just concurred

    so wrong again
    Congratulations, will weigh that against the multiple things you’re wrong about when talking about political or social issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    What bothers me is that Arteta never used to have a problem with lying to players over how much game time they'd get, it's petty clear that people like ESR, Nelson were lied to and tbh I suspect Trossard only got more because he forced his way into the team and was maybe helped at the beginning by injury

    So if Arteta isn't going to those lengths with Nwaneri, does he secretly not rate him and think he can sell him to balance out the incoming players?

    If so, he's underestimating the outrage from fans if he does, but then his remarks about Partey in May show he can be pretty tone deaf
    Given your homily about your dedication to accuracy the other day, you’re basing a lot on a report that’s little more than speculative mischief making.

    I mean I know you’re a grotesque hypocrite….

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    This is really becoming one of those tragic windows.

    But I guess the flipside is this may seal Arteta's fate, so I might appreciate the dross I'm about to witness this season in the long run.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    As for Gyokeres, I’m just happy that it looks like this mythical striker search could be over.

    I like Sesko’s attributes but it didn’t really feel like he was keen on singing for us nor did it look like Leipzig wanted to do business. So fuck him and I respect the fact we have gone for the guy who has actively pushed to sign for us.
    Yep sums up my thoughts on this. At one stage I was convinced by Sesko's potential but (1) he is clearly not bothered or even keen on joining us - that's a snub last year and silence this transfer season - and (2) we need to win things now, and its unlikely Sesko would have been any significant upgrade on Havertz this season.

    There was a dearth of striker options and I'm happy with signing a player who wants to prove himself with us.

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    I dunno, I think Sesko is being quite mature and grounded. Last year I think he decided he hadn’t developed enough for a big move, and probably a bit the same this season (although Leipzig in general had a poor season). Why create enmity to force a move to us, if we don’t agree a fee with them all it does is generate ill will. It’s flattering and everything to think a player will move heaven and earth to join us, but frankly to me it reeks of desperation

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    me too!
    Its always nice to go after finished articles who started from the bottom and their progression is clear for all to see.

    I maintain Sesko is a pretty good talent, but I'm not interested in teaching spoilt brats about the world and how decisions you make and your application have real consequences.

    More importantly, lets not forget that it's getting a bit obvious that we don't even have the sort of manager that has shown the ability to be nurturing or really deal with these kind of players.

    Like Mac has said over and over again, once (not "if") Gyokores is able to replicate just half of what he has done in the last 3 years, we would have solved a really silly problem that we had no business still going through at this stage, especially for a club with purported title ambitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Its always nice to go after finished articles who started from the bottom and their progression is clear for all to see.

    I maintain Sesko is a pretty good talent, but I'm not interested in teaching spoilt brats about the world and how decisions you make and your application have real consequences.

    More importantly, lets not forget that it's getting a bit obvious that we don't even have the sort of manager that has shown the ability to be nurturing or really deal with these kind of players.

    Like Mac has said over and over again, once (not "if") Gyokores is able to replicate just half of what he has done in the last 3 years, we would have solved a really silly problem that we had no business still going through at this stage, especially for a club with purported title ambitions.
    Exactly.

    I’m still not against us signing both and letting Sesko develop under Goku’s watch.
    Shame that Leipzig are being unrealistic with the fee for that to happen.

    I’m just glad we’ve gone for the player that ticks all the boxes for once.

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