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Thread: Summer Transfers 2025 Missed Opportunities and Regrets

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    Portuguese press are reporting deal not likely going through and we've made his father "cry" .... nice to know our suits are sharing the misery all around and it's not just the fans at the receiving end.

    https://metro.co.uk/2025/07/20/vikto...-23706268/amp/

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    Would be an immense failure from the club now if they don’t land him given there aren’t many other worthwhile options around.

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    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...nkfurt-striker

    Liverpool have finished another bumper deal in average time, and yes the average time to finish a transfer is less than a week, despite what some might have you believe.

    Ekitike is a great talent with a high ceiling, higher than Sesko's IMO (and actually arguable with stats). I now actively hope he doesn't get close to it!

    Probably the best for us as signing Isak would have definitely meant we wouldn't get close to them this season IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...nkfurt-striker

    Liverpool have finished another bumper deal in average time, and yes the average time to finish a transfer is less than a week, despite what some might have you believe.

    Ekitike is a great talent with a high ceiling, higher than Sesko's IMO (and actually arguable with stats). I now actively hope he doesn't get close to it!

    Probably the best for us as signing Isak would have definitely meant we wouldn't get close to them this season IMO.
    How is it arguable with Stats, Sesko has a better goals to game ratio in the Bundesliga than Ekitike…he’s also a year younger.

    I have a feeling you wouldn’t be arguing any of this, if we’d been interested in him. I personally saw Ekitike as an alternative if we didn’t sign Sesko or preferably we signed both and left Gyokeres with the stubborn dickheads at Sporting.

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    Seeing as you post a 1000 things a day one shouldn't be surprised if you don't take anything you push out seriously and and act out your usual case of convenient amnesia.

    It was you, who put out probably the most detailed analysis of all the strikers available this summer, and it's those stats I referred to that showed Ekitike is on a higher curve than Sesko currently. We had an in depth discussions then IIRC.

    Also, last season Ekitike scored more goals, had more assists and created more chances than Sesko in the Bundesliga in the same amount of games, so pardon me if I don't take mere goals per game or a season where he was only on loan too seriously.
    Last edited by 21_GOONER_SALUTE; 21-07-2025 at 11:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Seeing as you post a 1000 things a day one shouldn't be surprised if you don't take anything you push out seriously and and act out your usual case of convenient amnesia.

    It was you, who put out probably the most detailed analysis of all the strikers available this summer, and it's those stats I referred to that showed Ekitike is on a higher curve than Sesko currently. We had in depth discussions then IIRC.

    Also, last season Ekitike scored more goals, had more assists and created more chances than Sesko in the Bundesliga in the same amount of games, so pardon me if I don't take mere goals per game or a season where he was only on loan too seriously.
    Ad hominem won’t help you, plus you post on this particular thread far more than I do, so not only a petulant response but an inaccurate one as well

    Having a negative view on how the club is run is one thing, filtering everything to shoehorn it into a narrative is something else entirely

    The difference last season was two goals, plus I’m not the one saying one player is better than another. I think they are both decent players…and I’m sorry but I don’t believe for a second that the difference of two goals would have changed your attitude if we had Ekitike instead of Sesko as a first choice priority. But because Liverpool have agreed to sign him, it’s “oh look how much better they are at signing top players than we are”.

    Ekitike is technically more of a creative player than Sesko but he’s also extremely inconsistent at times….he often played for Frankfurt as a second striker so actually if anything, it would fit my belief that they would play well together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    BTW surprised no one has brought up us being linked with Frankfurt's Hugo Ekitike.

    I've seen a few glimpses of the kid and for now he looks like something that could be really really special.

    He's tall, pretty decent dribbler, has a crazy way he accelerates with the ball (not Martinelli aimless running) and seems to have that positive unpredictability that could really be a difference.

    Love the glimpses of the kid I've seen so far, and though he's far from the finished article, if I had to compare him with anyone it would be Isak, and TBH the few glimpses of the kid I've seen is making me want him more than an unattainable Isak.

    Right now he tops my list of strikers purely based on his potential (which is me doing a drastic uturn)...but I'd definitely take him over Sesko, all the attainable guys in the EPL , just a bit over Osimhen, and now its a straight duel between him and Gyokeres (head says a dependable Gyokeres but my heart says this kid is going to be crazy at a top club that counter attacks swiftly, really crazy). Probably fits Liverpool more than us but I sincerely hope that never happens.
    Posted, this in March and on the very first page of this thread...I probably had a crystal ball that told me there would be an annoying hypocritical knowitall that would continually question everyone's motives except his own


    As for the stats, you can check this site and read it the way you want to, though the higher marks tend to carry more weight.

    https://one-versus-one.com/en/compar...s-Hugo-Ekitike

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Posted, this in March and on the very first page of this thread...I probably had a crystal ball that told me there would be an annoying hypocritical knowitall that would continually question everyone's motives except his own


    As for the stats, you can check this site and read it the way you want to, though the higher marks tend to carry more weight.

    https://one-versus-one.com/en/compar...s-Hugo-Ekitike
    As I say I’m not basing goals on one season plus Sesko has a better shots to goals ratio

    Plus it’s interesting how you say he has a better ceiling yet you’ve also claimed that it’s an utter meaningless metric

    My argument is that the stats are not different enough that if it had been that we’d chosen Ekitike over Gyokeres you wouldn’t be throwing the exact same shit fit you through in June. And I’m just saying that it’s convenient that you’re talking about what a great player he is (when you’ve almost never mentioned him previously) only now that Liverpool are after him

    The point is no matter how tenuous a link or how outlandish the rumour, there’s nothing you won’t go after like a pig hunting truffles if you think it makes your argument for you. My contention is if your belief about the club was so self evident you wouldn’t need to do that.

    If you genuinely think Ekitike is better than Sesko that’s one thing (I think that’s a largely subjective opinion as they are two different types of striker), but again I think it’s more about the narrative you relentlessly push (and aren’t very subtle about it).

    Most of the time I just ignore it, but sometimes I see your posts and I think “have you ever considered supporting another club?”.
    I don’t buy into this you have to back Arteta to be a fan bollocks, but there seems to be almost nothing about the club you actually like.

    Honestly don’t mean that to be nasty either, yes I’ve wound you up in the past and I’ve I admit been sometimes unfair to you but unlike that Weasley little prick that I have on ignore I don’t necessarily think you’re a piece of shit or anything, I just honestly wonder what you get out of supporting Arsenal?
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    Shots to goal ratio ....I'm surprised you didn't bring up Sesko's slightly superior defensive stats so you could win the internet.

    I've got no intention of continuing a conversation with you that always leads no where, as in simple biblical speak, '"the blind can't lead the blind"..... so seeing as you'll never accept your faults, there is little point to continuing.

    Anyway, now that he's going to Liverpool, I really hope my predictions on him are wrong and more importantly we get our act right and do the needful to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Shots to goal ratio ....I'm surprised you didn't bring up Sesko's slightly superior defensive stats so you could win the internet.

    I've got no intention of continuing a conversation with you that always leads no where, as in simple biblical speak, '"the blind can't lead the blind"..... so seeing as you'll never accept your faults, there is little point to continuing.

    Anyway, now that he's going to Liverpool, I really hope my predictions on him are wrong and more importantly we get our act right and do the needful to compete.
    I’ve plenty of faults, I wouldn’t mind but I even admitted to them in my last reply. Plus i do post on here often, but I haven’t on this particular thread. I wasted far too much time arguing with that weird little man child to the point where I have to look at myself and just have him on ignore, because he’s such an unbelievably slimy creep that there’s just nothing to be gained by engaging with him.

    I just thought (perhaps wrongly) that you might have the character to admit you are being disingenuous about Ekitike. I thought wrong. So will just leave you to your relentless shit posting

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