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Thread: Summer Transfers 2025 Missed Opportunities and Regrets

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    We really need to follow up on this Eze interest and do whatever is needed to ensure we have goals coming from all angles, especially by having players who can contribute directly to scoring them and not those who excel in contributing to blocked shot stats.

    Isak is going to move to Liverpool this season, the sooner we are prepared for this, the better.
    Yeah I think Isak will go to Liverpool, though for much more than £110m, maybe £130-£140m.

    Either way I agree that Eze has gone from 'nice to have' to essential if this is to be a genuinely game-changing summer, yes we have Gyokeres but everyone else is tooling up also.

    Ideally we'd have changed manager too but you can't have everything , at least Arteta's mind seems to have been focussed more on attack by knowing he's probably just got this one more season before serious questions are asked

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Liverpool don’t particularly worry me they are incredibly top heavy already and for me it seems a silly strategy to sell Luiz Diaz to raise money for a player who has injury question marks. I like Isak very good player but not for the money being asked for.
    You also dismissed them similarly last year around this period and obviously they ended up winning the league earlier and by a bigger margin than Citeh had done for the past 3 seasons prior.

    Though having Ekitike and Isak does seem a bit like overkill, the fact remains they won the league comfortably last year with easily one of the worst strikers in the whole division and are now replacing him for someone who everyone regards as one of the best in the world ATM.

    Though I still think their weakness is their defending, at this rate they are likely to continue to outscore opponents which as we found out last season trumps clean sheets and endless possession football that doesn't lead to goals.

    I'm not saying they are going to walk the league, but I think a stronger and more rational arguement can be made for them winning it rather than us, especially if we can't sort out something as basic as dealing with low blocks that 80% of teams in this division are going to employ against us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    You also dismissed them similarly last year around this period and obviously they ended up winning the league earlier and by a bigger margin than Citeh had done for the past 3 seasons prior.
    Indeed, I was going to point out the same thing but couldn't bothered with the inevitable comeback ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    You also dismissed them similarly last year around this period and obviously they ended up winning the league earlier and by a bigger margin than Citeh had done for the past 3 seasons prior.

    Though having Ekitike and Isak does seem a bit like overkill, the fact remains they won the league comfortably last year with easily one of the worst strikers in the whole division and are now replacing him for someone who everyone regards as one of the best in the world ATM.

    Though I still think their weakness is their defending, at this rate they are likely to continue to outscore opponents which as we found out last season trumps clean sheets and endless possession football that doesn't lead to goals.

    I'm not saying they are going to walk the league, but I think a stronger and more rational arguement can be made for them winning it rather than us, especially if we can't sort out something as basic as dealing with low blocks that 80% of teams in this division are going to employ against us.
    They won the league with 84 points. Does that not make you think for a second that this is less of a reflection of them and not how poor we were and how poor City were without Rodri.

    This argument that Liverpool were this great unstoppable side is for the birds, we won 20 games last season. I said if we did our part that Liverpool would drop enough points for us to overhaul them…they did drop that many points, we didn’t do ours. They had 25 wins last season, that’s fewer than we got not just last season but the season before as well. They also conceded a fuck load of goals and now? They’ve made their attack more unbalanced.



    Do I think Liverpool can do better than last season? If they finish above us it’s because as like last season we have neglected to address the issue with scoring against low blocks. What Liverpool do or don’t do doesn’t factor into my thinking. People screamed blue murder when I compared their league title to that of Leicester City but it is in so far that it was less about what the winning team managed and the poor season had by the usual contenders

    City have Rodri back, they will be the team we have to focus on in my view.
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    Back to our reality, we top the table for being the worst regarding net spend at €216m and are the worst among our rivals (except Villa who have a zero net spend) when it comes to generating income on our players at a paltry €8m...

    At this point we might need to consider cancelling more contracts or giving out some players for free like Lokonga to reduce the stress on the wage bill (a disturbingly reoccurring theme since Arteta became manager).

    https://www.transfermarkt.com/premie...wettbewerb/GB1

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    So to put it succinctly, it doesn’t matter how many strikers they add unless they get their defence sorted

    And it doesn’t matter what they do, it matters what we do. If we don’t sort out our problem with the deep block, we will be lucky to get the points we got last season given our defence looks shit and therefore even more so it won’t matter what Liverpool do.

    But balanced teams win the premier league. We aren’t balanced, neither are Liverpool. City are

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    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...e-onana-future

    What do you guys think, do we put in a cheeky bid and dump our midget?

    I still believe his performance was one of the main reasons we couldn't get past PSG and I seriously rate him, though I think he let a few people down with the way he performed in the CWC.

    I also believe he'd be a big upgrade on Raya, though his wages would probably be debilitating......ah, one can dream, no

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Back to our reality, we top the table for being the worst regarding net spend at €216m and are the worst among our rivals (except Villa who have a zero net spend) when it comes to generating income on our players at a paltry €8m...

    At this point we might need to consider cancelling more contracts or giving out some players for free like Lokonga to reduce the stress on the wage bill (a disturbingly reoccurring theme since Arteta became manager).

    https://www.transfermarkt.com/premie...wettbewerb/GB1
    It's embarrasing that the Ox, at £32m, remains our biggest sale and that was in 2017

    That would be about £42m now apparently

    I thnk key to this is Arteta's reluctance to move players on - instead he BS's them that they will get minutes and keeps them, taking up space in the squad and adding to the wage bill - and then doesn't use them anyway...


    ESR saw through it eventually., unfortunately Arteta's now doing the same with Zin who's probably too dumb to go to where he will get game time (at least I hope he gets no game time with us anyway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    They won the league with 84 points.
    Partly because they won it so early they stopped bothering.
    If anyone had been pushing them I’m pretty sure they’d have got more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Partly because they won it so early they stopped bothering.
    If anyone had been pushing them I’m pretty sure they’d have got more.
    You think so?

    I think if they’d actually been pushed they’d have folded like a deck chair


    With City in the two previous seasons we all knew when we lost to Villa that the title was over, because City have an irrepressible quality (yes absolutely they’ve bought that). But it’s not a quality Liverpool have (and it’s not a dig at Liverpool we sure as fuck don’t have it either)

    They conceded 41 goals last season, not because they took their foot off the pedal but because their best defender is 34. Is that going to be any better this season with replacing Alexander Arnold and Robertson.

    The Liverpool side that won five years ago, now that was an irrepressible team. Yet the following season they only made top four on the last day of the season


    Now I’m not saying that Liverpool will struggle to make top four, nor even completely dismissing them for the title.


    But I don’t think Isak is going to make them miles better, most likely will Salah dropping off and the tragedy that befell Jota and selling Diaz and most likely selling Nunez he replaces that goal output

    84 points is what they were capable of and especially with the big change up in their side, it’s not controversial to say that I think that’s their ceiling. I think City are more than capable of bettering that, after yesterday I’m less sure we are

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