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    The Telegraph piece is the worst one of the lot.

    Jack Wilshere's loutish behaviour begs quesion: How much longer can Arsenal and England pin hopes on him?

    Jack Wilshere had apparently been drinking for almost 24 hours straight. Which seems quite a feat, when you reflect that his contribution to the FA Cup final victory amounted to all of 15 minutes, writes Oliver Brown


    Jack Wilshere has often been bracketed as the new Paul Gascoigne. It is an argument that would have some cogency if were talking about Gascoigne circa 1996, stupefied beyond any rational thought as he leant back in his Hong Kong ‘dentist’s chair’ and had half a bottle of Drambuie squirted down his throat.

    For Wilshere, by his asinine goading of Tottenham fans during Arsenal’s FA Cup victory parade, has given the greatest testament yet to his fundamental immaturity. He looked very far from the figure touted as a future linchpin of the England midfield, the cultured player whose magic wand of a left foot underpins Arsenal’s entire aesthetic, and more like the tanked-up oaf at whom you would inwardly shudder as he reeled out of your nearest Wetherspoon’s.

    Wilshere had apparently been drinking for almost 24 hours straight. Which seemed quite a feat, when you reflect that his contribution to the Cup final victory amounted to all of 15 minutes. So much for the Arsenal party line that the FA Cup was essentially a secondary bauble and that they should be mounting a more concerted challenge for the Premier League. Wilshere, scoffing at any such idea, used his own tangential part in his team’s triumph to celebrate as if he had just won the World Cup on his wedding day.

    “What do we think of Tottenham?” he slurred into his microphone atop the Arsenal bus. “And what do we think of s---?” Oh, by the cringe. If you looked across at Wilshere’s team-mates, they were all shuffling in embarrassment. As for Arsène Wenger, one of the game’s finest intellects and a manager fiercely preoccupied with how his charges uphold Arsenal’s image, one could only guess at the mortification.

    This was a performance to have made even Freddie Flintoff, who notoriously celebrated England’s 2005 Ashes series win with a Botham-esque all-nighter, blanch a touch. Flintoff’s shambling, red-eyed display upon a visit to Downing Street at least made for a comedic escapade. Wilshere’s chanting was just ugly and charmless, pandering to the fans’ most bovine instincts.

    It was extraordinary that a member of Arsenal’s sizeable public relations department was not on hand to muzzle him. It used to be, when Theo Walcott was on duty for the England Under-21s, that he was banned from speaking for fear of uttering anything that might attract the club’s disapproval. At this rate, Wilshere ought to be given a permanent media minder, so fast is he becoming Arsenal’s liability-in-chief.

    Smoking in a Las Vegas swimming pool, dragging on a shisha pipe, inciting supporters with a beery diatribe: Wilshere’s off-field conduct reads at one level like the standard fecklessness of youth. But he invariably receives a free pass by virtue of his undeniable talent. We are urged to give the lad a break, because he is impressionable and vulnerable and we cannot risk upsetting such a fine England prospect. And then there is the hoary old saw that he has grown up, because, you see, he is a father now. Well, Gascoigne was a father by the time he was Wilshere's age, but he was never exactly a role model for a generation.

    The romantics claimed that Arsenal’s joyous demolition of Aston Villa provided a precious palliative for the game after Fifa's week of ignominy. If that is the case, then Wilshere’s juvenile posturing left an acrid aftertaste. It falls to Wenger, surely, to try to cut through his pupil’s loutish behaviour.

    At 23, Wilshere is not a child, even if he insists upon acting like a boneheaded brute. On that bus the midfielder appeared far removed from a world-beater or, indeed, the ambassadorial figure that Wenger seeks in all his protégés. He just came across as incorrigibly callow.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...es-on-him.html

    Got to be a Spurs fan .

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    Jack gave them a chance to ignore our stylish win and instead get back to their favoured business of trashing the club. The word 'shit' is neither here nor there, kids hear it in the music they listen to every day. It is also the word most eminently suitable for describing the British media, a vital piece of vocabulary without which there would be no way to reach a practical comprehension of that industry. But give this filth an inch and they'll run a mile in all directions.

    They weren't so squeamish when it was loveable Gazza providing the antics. And most of them fell over each other to worship at John Terry's feet, captain marvel, captain courageous, the real player of the season and so on. For these favoured individuals they can overlook the faults and focus on the football. But not for Arsenal players, they have never been willing to offer such a concession. Look at how they have greeted Ozil to England. The Daily Fuck even ran a fantasy piece about him trying to bribe the police. There's no limit to how far they'll go to trash the team and the players. Adrian Durham is hired specifically for that purpose, it seems. Neil Ashton is the designated hitter for all things Ozil. Martin Samuel spins his Tolkienesque yarns about Arsenal of Isenguard limiting the liberties of the poor little hobbits from Manchester City, conveniently forgetting that by such analogies Manchester Utd are perched atop a black tower in Mordor.

    This shitnaughty stuff has been going on for years. These are the pricks who thought it was hilarious when Wenger slipped and fell at a station. The same wankers who glorify Maureen despite his genuinely despicable behaviour. The tossers who suddenly love bus parking because it is "professional", but groaned at "boring, boring Arsenal." They're biased cunts and like most "journalists" a disgrace to their once respectable profession.
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    Jack’s just an idiot. He shouldn’t have given the papers a chance to jump on the bandwagon and completely railroad our FA Cup victory. He’s just not a smart lad and as usual, the papers have jumped on to a humorous moment and run a mile with it to help tarnish his image and create a moral panic.

    NQ, I’ll disagree with the part about the papers having an agenda against Arsenal and ignoring the antics of similar English players. With Terry, the nightclub assault case, the affair with his teammates partner, his drug dealing dad, Rio and Anton….the papers were all over those incidents. He wasn’t spared. Same goes for Gazza and his drinking. There was a point where there was no sympathy for the guy. But papers forget their original stories and will wipe the slate clean if a player stays low and creates a new narrative for himself. They always do. But they’ll milk a story dry if a player continues to play the class clown. All will be forgotten if Jack let’s his football do the talking.

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    All the goals to enjoy again:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Jack’s just an idiot. He shouldn’t have given the papers a chance to jump on the bandwagon and completely railroad our FA Cup victory. He’s just not a smart lad and as usual, the papers have jumped on to a humorous moment and run a mile with it to help tarnish his image and create a moral panic.

    NQ, I’ll disagree with the part about the papers having an agenda against Arsenal and ignoring the antics of similar English players. With Terry, the nightclub assault case, the affair with his teammates partner, his drug dealing dad, Rio and Anton….the papers were all over those incidents. He wasn’t spared. Same goes for Gazza and his drinking. There was a point where there was no sympathy for the guy. But papers forget their original stories and will wipe the slate clean if a player stays low and creates a new narrative for himself. They always do. But they’ll milk a story dry if a player continues to play the class clown. All will be forgotten if Jack let’s his football do the talking.

    Yeah, except you miss the point completely because those incidents are much worse then a player saying the word "shit"

    Also, he hasn't railroaded our victory. Its made it better because he has wound everyone up. We sing those chants every week, so what if one our players does too? We moan a lot that modern players don't care about the club etc and then some moan when they try to connect with the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    Yeah, except you miss the point completely because those incidents are much worse then a player saying the word "shit"

    Also, he hasn't railroaded our victory. Its made it better because he has wound everyone up. We sing those chants every week, so what if one our players does too? We moan a lot that modern players don't care about the club etc and then some moan when they try to connect with the fans.
    I wasn't making a comparison on the incidents. Simply pointing out that Jack isn't the only one to get this sort of attention from the press. It's a response to NQ's post and I'm just summing up the nature of the media. This whole 'Jack the lad' misfit narrative will get milked by the press. I said it was humourous and I don't think it's serious at all but Jack needs to realise that they will target him now that he had this bad boy rep. It hasn't railroaded our victory but it's put a negative spin on the victory from a press standpoint because they're talking about Jack's incident instead of applauding the team and our victory.

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    Wheelchair has apologised.

    Nothing to apologise for, football fans can be cunts at the best of times yet when a player behaves in a similar vein there's uproar. It's the nature of the sport and the kind of people it breeds. Get over it and move on.

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    What d'you think of Letters?
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Short!

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    What d'you think of short?
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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