Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

[Munchies]

Wenger is a WUM

https://twitter.com/Bruno_Constant/s...42702168088576

L'Equipe journalist, saying that Diaby will stay but sign a deal on different terms

#Diaby hasn't been released by #Arsenal. Out of contract. But verbal agreement with the club. Talks ongoing for a new contract.

[Niall_Quinn]

What's so hard to understand about a contract? He does not have to sign! It's not rocket science. A club can't force him to sign.

I never once said he had to sign a contract. I said twice that it's a business relationship between himself and the club.

However. I said he and his agent are wankers for the way they have behaved. I said Sterling is a rotten cunt for the way he has played it and disrespected the club and the particularly the fans.

You say he's been stitched up by some sort of smear campaign. I say he's been stitched up by that revolting leech he has in tow who is pretending to represent his interests. But of course he had to allow that to happen.

It looks like we are talking about two different things.

It will be interesting (probably depressing) to see if players run a mile from this "agent" now he's so reviled or if they flock to him.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger is a WUM

https://twitter.com/Bruno_Constant/s...42702168088576

L'Equipe journalist, saying that Diaby will stay but sign a deal on different terms

He missed him after a few hours? Oh well, the treatment room wouldn't be the same without him anyway.

[Power n Glory]

I never once said he had to sign a contract. I said twice that it's a business relationship between himself and the club.

However. I said he and his agent are wankers for the way they have behaved. I said Sterling is a rotten cunt for the way he has played it and disrespected the club and the particularly the fans.

You say he's been stitched up by some sort of smear campaign. I say he's been stitched up by that revolting leech he has in tow who is pretending to represent his interests. But of course he had to allow that to happen.

It looks like we are talking about two different things.

It will be interesting (probably depressing) to see if players run a mile from this "agent" now he's so reviled or if they flock to him.

This is the start of the smear campaign.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...-wants-5334889

Rodgers said: “Ultimately, for players and representatives, a lot of the time it’s about two things – game-time and money.
"You see it throughout football, not just here. A player can be really happy ¬somewhere and be content and settled, and the development of the player can take place.
“As a manager, you want to give everything to the player to help them. But ultimately, if a player or their representative – probably more so their representative – decides that the player needs to move, that is normally what happens.

"Raheem has made 118 appearances and has only just turned 20. We’ve got a really strong relationship but, as I said, it is about more than that unfortunately. It isn’t like 20 or 30 years ago, when people came in and sometimes didn’t even look at the contract before signing it.
Rodgers added: “Ian Ayre does a wonderful job here, with the owners, and the model that’s been created is to incentivise deals for young players and not give them too much, too young.
"Of course, you still give them what their value and worth is, but I have seen it with so many young players - real top talents - who are way overpaid, then they disappear.
"It won’t happen here.”

The player rejects the contract and the manager and club go public. You get the old Liverpool guard like Jamie Carragher weighing and warning him about the Kop turning on him and whatever else. They’re trying to put public pressure on the player to sign. It’s a desperate move and just ruins the players rep in the process because the player and agent then respond in public. Even if he’s being led wrong, the backlash goes on to the player and he’s only 20. Shady agents but these clubs can’t be trusted either. You saw how they blocked Suarez’s move to us. He was supposed to have a contract clause along with a verbal agreement. Liverpool have handled this badly once again. Keep this sort of thing from the press and stop idiots like Carragher weighing in.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger has said similar things about agents, his comments related to Walcott are far less veiled than Rodgers'

The theory Sterling won't sign and so the club try to fuck up his image is a rank outsider compared to the probability the player and his agent are fishing for more cash. Of course the media and the pundits have piled in, it's a free lunch and they'll never pass that up. But a "campaign"? I can't think of any reason why that would be in Liverpool's interests. Isn't it far more likely this is just the increasingly common agent/ player thing? Give him a shed load of cash and guarantees on where and when he'll play and he stays, otherwise he's off? Is that beneficial or realistic representation by the agent? For a young player on his way up? I would say no. Don't forget, this agent is also trying to claw his way up. He's just gone freelance and it's pretty damn obvious he intends to make a name for himself, whether it's a good or bad name doesn't seem to concern him.

Money makes the best people do shitty things. Horrible fucking thing, money and I would say that's what's ruining this player's reputation - money.

[Power n Glory]

When speaking on the Sterling situation, Wenger said it may not be the player’s fault but the agent but also said that when things go public it’s difficult to negotiate. Things should stay behind closed doors. I agree with that which is why I’ve never agreed with what he’s said in public about Walcott’s contract negotiations. He knows better and you keep it private. Things could have gone badly because there are guys in the Arsenal camp leaking rumours of a training ground bust up and that’s not cool.

Ian Stone announced on the Tuesday Club Podcast that Winterburn had said there was a bust up between the pair and Walcott came out to deny it. Alan Davis was even saying that Wenger made a joke about the last negotiations and it being about money. It could have turned sour if Theo didn’t want to stay or if he added fuel to the flames with a public statement on negotiations. If we had ex players like Henry weighing with criticism, negotiations would probably go south. If the fans get involved and start booing then it makes it even worse and that’s what idiots like Carragher are calling for. Sterling’s agent is right. He’s a knob. You’re right, it’s not in the clubs interest to start such things but it’s out of desperation. The player isn’t budging so they leak stories.

Think back to the RVP situation. A cunt of a player, yes indeed. But it was Wenger that tried to control fan expectations when he was banging in goals and the press were running stories reminding us he hasn’t signed a new contract. Fans were saying we should pay him whatever he want, papers ran with that but Wenger came out with that comment about paying over the odds for players reaching 30 and out of their prime. Summer arrived, still no deal and PHW makes a statement about not being able to match City’s wages. Why is he making such a statement? One – he’s trying to paint the picture that RVP’s stalling on a contract for higher wages. Two – the clubs trying to attract a bid from clubs like City. Wenger made no secret of the fact that we had ‘no choice’ but to sell to United because they came were the ones that put up the bid. If City came with a bid and RVP was willing to go, that would have been the narrative. He’s a greedy shit that wanted more money or at least the narrative the clubs would have the fans believe.

It’s a shady business. The players play their part in this but the clubs are fucking sneaky.

[GP]

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Sterling is just a kid and probably a bit thick. He's obviously been badly advised. Liverpool haven't handled the situation at all well, though.
The thing you have to remember is this is Liverpool. Always the victim. I doubt it's any kind of co-ordinated smear campaign, more just a general siege mentality.

[AFC Leveller]

"talks" between Diaby and the club? WTF can they talk about? he is finished as a top level footballer and has had about 250 diferent injuries as well as play very little football. Just get rid, end of.

[Power n Glory]

I can agree with that. It's not coordinated but they really are trying ruin the kid with amount they've said along with ex players. From Phil Thompson, Carragher, Owen today. Even if he wanted to stay he can't now.

[Niall_Quinn]

Explosion of TV and all these ex-player pundits. It's happening with Arsenal too, we have loads of ex-players spouting off. Happily Robson seems to have pissed off at least.