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Thread: Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It was never a 'stage'. We didn't have the money. Now we do, he's spending it.
    Big misconception about our money situation.

    Examples

    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/arse...enal-transfers

    Season 07/08

    Samir Nasri £15,800,000
    Aaron Ramsey £5,000,000
    Luke Freeman £200,000
    Lassana Diarra £4,000,000
    Bakari Sagna £6,000,000
    Munich signed Ribery for less than £20m and Liverpool signed Torres for £25m that same year I think. We could afford one of them at least. The following season we sell Hleb and Flamini but go into the season with only Bischoff and Silvestre as our Summer signings. A bloody disgraceful summer that. But some how come winter we manage to find almost £16m to sign Arshavin in January on deadline day.

    Season 11/12
    Carl Jenkinson Free
    Gervinho £10,600,000
    Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain £12,000,000
    Joel Campbell £950,000
    Park Chu-Young £3,000,000
    André Santos £6,200,000
    Mikel Arteta £10,000,000
    Per Mertesacker £10,000,000
    Thomas Eisfeld £475,000
    We went for quantity over quality and a good chunk of those players are gone now. At least £20m down the toilet right there and that doesn't include wages.

    We've had money to spend. It doesn't matter if it's come from selling players, the problem is we've spent badly.

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    Unless there's a glaring hole in the side, or we're planning for someone's long-term replacement, then the impression I get is that Wenger is more or less happy with his squad as it is, and is only really on the lookout for the odd exceptional player who is literally too good
    to pass up on?

    I can see there being some truth to some of these CB and LB rumours that we keep seeing, given that 3/4s of our first choice back 4 will be in their 30s this season, but beyond that I think we're looking at opportunistic moves, if someone awesome comes along who is clearly miles better than someone we have in the same role...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firmino Is Boss View Post
    £32.5 MILLION POUNDS for Benteke!

    :cry:
    When you see things like that you can almost understand why Wenger doesn't want to participate in the transfer market

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Big misconception about our money situation.
    In your examples you're only considering players bought, not those sold. The net situation is the more significant one.
    It's only in the last few years we've had a big net spend, when the new financial deals were in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    When you see things like that you can almost understand why Wenger doesn't want to participate in the transfer market
    The crazy thing is the money is almost no object now with this new Sky TV deal - if we're finishing anywhere in the top 4 then we're getting close to £100m a year just for taking part!

    The problem now is actually making sure you're getting a £30-50m player for your £30-50m - that's where I think Wenger's opinion probably differs quite wildly from a lot of other people's, and where his reluctance to spend starts to creep in. Say what you want about the players he's taken a punt on or signed for lesser fees, when he get's his cheque book out for someone over £30m, I think he expects someone on Sanchez or Ozil's level for his money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    In your examples you're only considering players bought, not those sold. The net situation is the more significant one.
    It's only in the last few years we've had a big net spend, when the new financial deals were in place.
    What we sold is irrelevant. If you decide to sell your house do you decide to then buy a caravan and tents as an equivalent? We were still able to raise the funds and spend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    In your examples you're only considering players bought, not those sold. The net situation is the more significant one.
    It's only in the last few years we've had a big net spend, when the new financial deals were in place.
    Also, whilst I'd also prefer quality over quantity in an ideal world, I think that only really works if you're talking about the difference between 1 vs 2 or more players in the same area - if your squad is thin, and you desperately need to buy players across multiple areas, then quantity is pretty much your only choice (unless your scouts (and luck) are unbelievably good)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    What we sold is irrelevant.


    The net spend is irrelevant to the issue of how much money we had before the new financial deals were in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    The net spend is irrelevant to the issue of how much money we had before the new financial deals were in place?
    This is basic stuff, Letters. If you sold your car, house or whatever asset, how much money will you be left with to spend?

    You can't say we had no money to spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    The crazy thing is the money is almost no object now with this new Sky TV deal - if we're finishing anywhere in the top 4 then we're getting close to £100m a year just for taking part!

    The problem now is actually making sure you're getting a £30-50m player for your £30-50m - that's where I think Wenger's opinion probably differs quite wildly from a lot of other people's, and where his reluctance to spend starts to creep in. Say what you want about the players he's taken a punt on or signed for lesser fees, when he get's his cheque book out for someone over £30m, I think he expects someone on Sanchez or Ozil's level for his money...
    Agreed - thats why we should be all over Vidal for £28 mill, especially using Sanchez as a contact.

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