Will Arsene leave at the end of his current contract

[Dein-machine]

Wenger will be here until he is 70.

He is THE boss, he does not have a boss.

His principles will hold us back for a few more years yet.

He does what he wants when he wants.

We cannot win the league or the CL with him in charge.

The fuck all cup is nice but nowhere near the PL or the CL.

Simple but so true to all but Wengers disciples. Any man, in any job that does what he wants, when he wants is under no pressure & thinks of himself as bullet-proof. Its a bit like me at work to be honest.

[Dein-machine]

Sorry guys, my machine went on repeat mode!

[Marc Overmars]

I thought he'd leave at the end of his last contract and probably even the one before that, now I think it's fairly obvious he's here until retirement because Arsenal is his life's work, he's not going to manage another team after us.

[Globalgunner]

I thought he'd leave at the end of his last contract and probably even the one before that, now I think it's fairly obvious he's here until retirement because Arsenal is his life's work, he's not going to manage another team after us.

He couldnt even get another big job if he tried. Nobody wants a blinkered idealogue as manager. When I posited that he would get another contract last year, some scoffed. He could well be here another 10 years and we wont win the league or CL in that time. Im certain of it.

[Özim]

No I didn't.

Of course you didn't, I remember you playing down the FA Cup saying it had been devalued a lot, suddenly it's a big trophy again now that we've won it, odd that.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I think Letters is correct in saying that he is under pressure but not the pressure he should be under (he phrased it differently).

I don't need to repeat Chip Keswicks comment at the AGM we all know what he said and that tells you there isn't the oversight there should be.

Wenger come what may has to deliver top four football for us from now until the time he goes, but that is not enough we need to compete both for the league and European cup....something we haven't done meaningfully from start of the season to the finish for a long time (haven't finished higher than third in ten years).

[Letters]

Of course you didn't, I remember you playing down the FA Cup saying it had been devalued a lot, suddenly it's a big trophy again now that we've won it, odd that.

It has been devalued a lot. But it's still a major trophy. Those of us who can think in shades of grey can hold both of those thoughts in our head simultaneously.
You don't have a trophy parade for the league cup, not if you're a big club with any self respect.

[Özim]

It has been devalued a lot. But it's still a major trophy. Those of us who can think in shades of grey can hold both of those thoughts in our head simultaneously.
You don't have a trophy parade for the league cup, not if you're a big club with any self respect.

It's been devalued but it's still a major trophy? You had said top clubs didn't take it too seriously anymore hence the reason clubs like Portsmouth won it (you belittled the achievements of those lesser clubs I believe whenever I brought them up).

I still rate the FA Cup, however it's not one of the big trophies, those are the PL and CL, the FA Cup is a great trophy to win but we should be challenging for the other two.

[Niall_Quinn]

I mean a trophy that counts

(Obviously the FA Cup doesn't *really* count because if people assert that Wenger will never win a trophy for us again then we have to move the goalposts and dismiss the FA Cup rather than admitting we were wrong).

That's a pile of bullshit Letters and you know it. It was great to win the FA Cup and I doubt there's a fan anywhere, bar Zim, who would have rather lost it just so some stupid media catchphrase could live on.

But Arsenal is a massive club that charges massive tickets prices (highest in the world I believe) and pays massive amounts to its players and the manager. So great, we won the FA Cup. I hope we win it again this coming season.

But now on to the real business of competition at the top of the top flight. When are we winning the title and the CL?

In fact, when are we going to seriously challenge for the PL and the CL?

Do you really think waving the FA Cup around invalidates that question? Or makes anyone asking it a man-toddler fan?

[Power n Glory]

Agree with this but we all know that Wenger is unable or unwilling to adapt. This has been proven year after year. His way is good enough to get us top 4 & ofcourse a shout at the FA cup but not good enough to win the top honours.
I don't have to argue with the likes of Letters about this - the last decade proves all. Even now with supposed financial restraints lifted we are the laziest in the transfer market whilst all around us teams buy quality to improve.
All he can do is spend his time slagging off the other teams for their spending whilst sitting on his cheque book. Wake up Wenger & join the new football world. Unless you spend real money on real quality, you won't compete.

I think he’s adapting but very very slowly. We’re now making more of our resources at least. We’ve broken our wage structure and we’re signing serious talent. I think Gazidis has helped put him at ease with the spending. We still need to move quicker on deals but at least we’re spending. Tactically, there has been a slight shift since Bould came into the frame. We defend more as a unit, we focus more on shape and can actually defend a 1 nil lead without buckling under set piece pressure and getting sucker punched. It’s far from perfect because we’ve seen games where we look like the Arsenal of 5-6 years ago where we couldn’t defend for toffee but it’s a massive improvement. The cup victories are testament to that. It’s why I can’t understand the Merts criticism but we all have our favourites. Wenger has even changed the way we do our preseasons and adapted when before he was against such tours.

There are signs that he is changing and adapting but I don’t think it will be enough to really dominate. Certain players he must cut loose and he has to be more ruthless and respond to flaws a lot quicker. I don’t want to see struggling players or struggling combination of players racking up game tallies even though we can see how much we struggle. We’ll see what this season holds for us.